On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:31:48 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:
Toronto found some other landfill ~ 2010 after about 10 - 12
years of trucking it to Michigan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-garbage-no-longer-shipped-to-michigan-1.913880
" At the height of the deal, 142 trucks a day were making the trip,
hauling an estimated 10,000 tons of garbage daily. "
John T.
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On 02/10/2019 11:18 AM, snipped-for-privacy@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
I had to check the map to refresh my memory. I've set up molding systems
in Toronto, Mississagua, and Guelph but didn't remember Toronto being
anywhere in the vicinity of Michigan. I guess it is, sort of. I've went
across that part of Ontario to get from NY to Port Huron so I guess it
would work. Even London is about 3/4 of the way to Michigan.
It's not particularly close - about 300Km from Toronto to Port Huron
- cannot have been a cheap proposition but it made Verspeeten a lot of
money - - -and kept a lot of truckers employed.
I'm sure. Unless my mental math is way off you could do two round trips
a day even with the 14 hour rule. That's assuming a drop and hook
operation so you're not sitting in seagull city for a few hours waiting
to unload.
That would drive me crazy. I used to get antsy if I did a couple of back
to back runs from LA to Seattle. The only thing worse is driving a
tractor. Focus on that tree, hope you don't fall asleep before you get
there, make a u-turn and find another tree to aim at. I didn't have one
of those fancy climate controlled cabs with an entertainment center
either, just an elderly Minneapolis-Moline.
For me it was a 540 Cockshutt and a Massey Harris 44. The roar of
the massey wasn't bad, but the whine of that darn 540 was totally
hypnotic - it would put you to sleep half way across the feild -
particularly with the "kerchunk- kerchunk" of the old New Holland
baler imposed over it
Back in the Children's Band radio days I got to know some of the
truckers running up and down I-95. You talked to the same guys at the
same place at the same time almost every night. If they weren't there
they had trouble. It was worse than driving a bus but most of them
seemed to like it. I rescued one of the guys one night, got him to a
phone and back to his truck. It was like pulling the thorn out of the
lion's paw. Suddenly I was in the gang. It certainly made driving to
Florida a lot faster.
On 02/11/2019 09:46 PM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:
I bounced around the east coast a few times when dispatch was
repositioning me for a load back west. As far as I could tell it sucked.
Screw around most of the afternoon getting a load, drive five or six
hours at night to go 300 miles, spend the morning getting unloaded and
put up with crappy truck stops in between.
My idea of a worthwhile run was LA to Dalton and back or even LA to
Denver. You usually got to drive during the day, sleep at night, and
live like a human. Sometimes LA to Dalton was a little intense and you'd
catch about 5 hours of sleep in Amarillo, but then you'd go to
Adairsville and hang around for a day or two.
I only got to Florida a couple of times and the last was a disaster. I
always carried a bike and I went out for a ride. Wrecked the bike, broke
a few ribs, and my collar bone in two places but I'd be damned if I'd go
to an ER in Jacksonville knowing they wouldn't let me back in the truck.
Lots of ibuprofen but I got it back to Montana. I was supposed to go on
to Seattle but I called my dispatcher and told her I was done when I got
to town. Broken ribs are the gift that keeps on giving for about six
months.
Kid brother did LDT for many years -Atlanta to Fairbanks, Vancouver
to Brownsville, Florida to Edmonton,Toronto to San Diego, in and out
of New Jersey from Winterpeg, up and down the west coast, New York to
LA, just about any run you could imagine, as well as a season on the
ice. He HATED New Jersey.
For several years he team drove with his wife, and on west coast runs
he always had the Kayaks strapped to the back of the sleeper. He told
dispatch he didn't care if he had a 1 week layover in Cali or Oregon -
he'd wait for a GOOD load out and ENJOY some down time. One year he
was "home" in Saskatchewan for a total of EIGHT DAYS.
With the bicycle I never minded downtime, particularly California
downtime in the winter. I'd get home every now and then but that had
it's drawbacks. About the only thing going out of town was liner board
from the pulp mill. It didn't pay but it got you back into action.
Canada was the same. I'd bring furniture in but we couldn't run between
two points in Canada so you took whatever you got that was going back to
the States.
Furniture and carpets were what really made money for the company.
Shippers knew that so you'd bring good paying loads into Denver and take
dog food out.
It was fun for a while. I wanted to drive a truck when I was a kid so I
took a little break from software in the '90s to do it. No way would I
have wanted to look at the rest of my life and think this is how it's
going to be. After a couple of years I'd head for AZ in November and go
back to work in the spring.
When our town was starting to recycle they asked for people that wanted
to be on the committee to implement it. Since I had experience from our
particular industry I volunteered. Of course some of the people were
real greenies that wanted to save the planet.
Once woman went off on a rant about plastics and was full of
misinformation. When she was done, I asked her if she was so passionate
about it, why was she using a disposable Bic pen instead of one that
uses refillable ink like mine? Shut her up.
On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 7:08:46 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
That sounds like one big, hot mess to me. For starters, once you mix
cardboard, mixed paper and garbage together, that's the end of the recycling
for the paper. Nobody wants paper product covered in tomato sauce and
grease. China, where much of this goes, including the plastics, has
tightened their standards so that unless it's pretty much clean and pure,
they don't want it. Already municipalities here are in crisis, having
to re-evaluate what they are going to do and we keep garbage and recyclables
separate and that isn't clean enough for China anymore.
You don't have to make money recycling it. It just has to be the same
net cost or cheaper than putting it all in a landfill.
Even without the tomato sauce and grease, unsorted paper is pretty
useless for recycling. They want each type of paper separated. At
pennies a pound, sorted you can't afford to sort it after it gets
mixed. That is why you see "cardboard only" dumpsters behind places
that handle a lot of boxes and the recycler might reject the whole
dumpster if he sees anything else in there.
It was the same when we were recycling computer paper. Anything that
wasn't white bond paper was rejected and the guy would reject the
whole load if he saw some of the "recycled" paper in there.
These days we should only be putting metal, #1 and #2 plastic in the
recycle. Everything else should be burned for electricity or
landfilled.
Landfill is pretty cheap as soon as you get away from the Acela
corridor.
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 09:30:23 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:
I am - not big city like Tpronto thpugh. Even small town in this area
the land is too valuable and we depend on groundwater for drinking, so
suitable landfill sites are very few and far between.
I keep anything like that in the fridge until bin day and
its only stuff like the bone in a roast leg of lamb etc and
stuff that has been in the fridge too long and went mouldy.
I think sewer rate here is a little lower but water much higher. A
bachelor friend pays about $40 and families about $100/month. Over the
long haul you can save with well and septic but when a fix is needed you
get socked all at once. I think I would prefer the stable route in part
because government specifications change. Two neighbors when they sold
their houses were forced to put chemical treatment facilities in that
take grey water from septic tank into a tank that removes most bacteria
and heavy metals before hitting the leach field. County must have
tightened up on perk rate of septic fields. Fortunately I have
evaporation beds. It cost these neighbors $25,000 each.
Trash and recycle removal once a week cost about $60 for 3 months.
Our old well when installed had recovery rate of 30 gpm. Water was
great with no treatment. When my parents were alive and their city
water got over chlorinated because of a spill they would get their
drinking water from me.
Hard water, lots of calcium, does that.
I have to test my water and will get a kit and do it myself. The state
can do it for $4 but it will take a couple weeks to get full results and
over a week to get bacteria. My wife will not drink or even wash with
it until we get the bacteria test.
Old well water was border line calcium and plumber wanted to put in
treatment which exchanges calcium for sodium. I declined but a neighbor
was treating his and discovered he was not allowed to put the sodium
flush effluent into the septic and had to put in a separate drain field.
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