Problems by humans on trees (2025 Update)

It's only been 2 days since your last cut and paste message. I don't think increasing the frequency is a good thing.

Unless you have a comment on trees and their proper care, please reframe from your negative attacks.

I don't think the frequency of poor treatments to trees is a good thing.

John, I have to tell you, based on your behavior, constant spamming with your links, and ongoing taunting, I wouldn't call you as an arborist if you were the last one on earth.

I understand you are passionate about this, but give it a break, man. Nobody asked you to constantly post links over and over ad nauseum. You turn off many people and it isn't because your information is not right, it's the presentation. It's old aready.

Add to it a lot of his stuff is not right, and you see the problem.

Actually, it's not an attack.. It's a statement..

If it were an attack I'd say something like;

I should send my stepsons father your way.. He likes to pee on trees, profusely.

OP would be well to do this - he's pissing away his time here - which is OK for us retired folks.

Also reminds me of time I was cycling with son and stopped to pee. Son said, "Dad, don't you see that sign on tree that says "no trees pissing?""

Hey! It's another news flash!

You must have French heritage. In France, if there is no "nature" to retire to, in order to relieve yourself, you, man or woman, are only required to turn your back to traffic. But then, they didn't have very many Puritans to deal with (yes Joe, a preposition;-).

On the subject of "symplastless", let me just say that he has been posting to "wrecked gardens" since at least 2005. He responds to questions, instead of just posting his ad in the "wrecked gardens" and then running off to set traps for the unwary in other NGs. I too find his parsimonious prose painful to peruse but he does have his moments as witness this post from 2005.

"So called Christians such as Rick Santorum (R) again have exercised poor decisions with due respect to creation care. Rick Santorum on a scale from 0-100%, scored a poor 0% with the scorecard of the League of Conservation Voters

- "symplastless" Feb. 5. 2005

His reflection on the Republicans, party of Russel Train (founder of the World Wildlife Fund and first head of the EPA), and Rep."Pete McCloskey" ,CA, co-sponsor of the Endangered Species Act, was one of his better efforts.

Remember the "old" Republican Party?

"Back in 1973, the environment was a bipartisan issue. Both parties strongly supported the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, National Environmental Policy Act and many other bedrock laws that have done so much to make our lives enjoyable. Yet today, the Newt Gingrichs and Tom DeLays and others have led the Republican Party to abandon the legacy of Teddy Roosevelt. There are a handful of pro-environment Republicans still in the Congress, but they are outnumbered by people who put corporate campaign contributions and business and development interests ahead in their priorities."

- "Pete" McCloskey January 2, 2004, Los Angeles Times

"D. Staples" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com...

Ha.. He showed you Joe.. Yeah... Sure did... Yup.. Woo... Yeah buddy..

So anyway.. How's the weather?

symplastless wrote:

Hey....who knew? :-)

I'm as tired as anyone of the constant repetition, but please direct me to any information he has provided that is not accurate.

Keith Babberney ISA Certified Arborist #TX-0236AT

You're right. Its accurate to say if you plant tree too deep, it will have problems. (Then, leave you hanging exactly how deep you should plant a tree...) (Of course its a generic tree since it addresses no specific species). (Of course, the depth of planting too deep is never defined...)

Strangely unspecific, generic and nowhere to go...

Oh, the generic tree. Should we rake up the leaves under the generic tree in fall, or leave them be (Y/N)? No specifics, please. No weblinks, thanks. Dave

Easy enough, check his so called dictionary, start at forestry. You are apparently a certified Texas arboist, he is a tree hacker.

Planting southern yellow pine for forestry application recommends planting above the root collar, just enough to cover it.

As for your last question, is the generic tree in what zone? Wild or cultivated?

put it this way, it is ultimately always better to plant ANY tree too shallow than it is too deeply. The root or trunk flare must be above ground on any tree, period the end.

Raking leaves is a good idea when it comes to fruit trees. The leaves, fruit droppings and pits or seeds can carry disease so should be removed. For ornamental trees it is best to leave the litter, but in that case I would recommend you shred them with your lawn mower first.

"Treedweller" wrote in

I am sorry about the repetition. I do not repeat as much as humans are incorrectly treating the trees. That is what really gets old is the false advice and low quality tree care that takes place. Just look at the way people mulch the trees. Its sad. I will keep with the same message. However, if Don Staples can provide data that is peer reviewed and published that suggest I am wrong, I would be happy. However, its just a matter of name slinging and noise. Not to mention the fowl language. Where is your definition of a forest or forestry Don Staples? At least I define my terms. You present noise. Look that one up after forestry.

Beware of so called foresters who do not understand the ecological stages of trees with respect to the chemistry between them and their associates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!