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China seems to be serious about expanding their EV charging network. They reportedly installed 112,000 stations in December, which is more than the US has in total. That's an average of nearly 4000 a day.

Can't see it from Kennedy's house so I guess it is OK.

All of the important Kennedys are dead. They are left with the drunks, druggies and general losers. Kerry has dropped to the D list and they don't have anyone else in DC to speak for them. Mrs Beasley (Warren) surely isn't going to fight a green project.

The Kennedys are pretty insignificant now that Teddy is dead. He and RFK jr were the driving force behind stopping Cape Wind and old Bob has fallen into the kook category.

Seabrook Station in New Hampshire was the end of Public Service of New Hampshire. There were many protests but the killer was CWIP. (Construction Works In Progress). The state court ruled that you can't jack utility rates to finance something you're building and hasn't come online.

Vineyard Wind will have 84 Haliade-X turbines that are 853 feet high with 350' long blades.

Note that Vinyard Wind is not Cape Wind, the one that was opposed by Fat Teddy, Mittens Romney, Kerry, and the Kochs. That one petered out when National Grid and Northeast Energy canceled their contracts when the project didn't meet the milestones.

We'll see how this one goes and how much government subsidization is needed to keep this one alive.

Of course they will. You juggle the paperwork but one way or another, where else is the money coming from?

Sure, on paper. The end result is the users will pay, if not now, later. Income must equal or exceed outgo.

That is the only way the cost escapes the rate payer. Oh, rate payers are tax payers too. OK, just shuffle the paperwork. Keep a tube of KY handy.

Precisely. Out of control government drones mandate, we pay.

Niagara does too - so there is a sizeable amount of power generated that way

NUKES are NOT the ANSWER They are just the start of the question. Where are you going to put the nukes???? Nobody will allow them to be be built within a thousand miles of them. Even the extremely "safe" and reliable CANDU systems.

Australia has NO nukes.

Bullshit.

More bullshit.

Anywhere you like.

How odd that they did. With France and Japan and India in spades. Britain too and countless others.

Wrong again.

Because we arent actually stupid enough shut most of them down. One we were stupid enough to sell to stupid foreigners has been and another we were stupid enough to sell to an operation with lots of gas is proposing to but likely the govt will tell them that they cant do that.

And what Oz has is irrelevant to whether nukes make a lot more sense than stupid EVs anyway.

I just think it is a dumb idea thought up by someone who was never a sailor. It has nothing to do with the view. You can't put expensive technology in salt water and expect it to last long without constant maintenance. That is why they don't store moth balled planes on an island. They park them in the desert. That is where the wind farms should be too. Then they just need to deal with sand, a whole different kettle of stinky fish. (or peanuts for those who remember Desert One) ;-)

That is not a production reactor doing much useful for anyone except nuclear scientists. That is a small research reactor. Sort of an HO gauge working model of a real reactor that the grad students can play with..

Funny how "Rod" and "Joey" posted exactly the same text. It looks like a classic case of dissociative identity disorder. I wonder if "Joey" is a girl?

Most US nuclear plants were built within 75 miles of a major metropolitan center.

So that fool Clare f***ed that claim up completely, as I said.

We were talking about electric generation, hence the coal reference. That kind of reactor makes isotopes whether they want to or not. You are saying they found a way to sell some of their nuclear waste. Cool.

Why is a kangaroo called a joey? Answer: Originates in the aborigine language and joey means 'small animal'. Joey is the collective norm for any small animals.

Given the definition of small, my guess Joey has a small penis but an inflated ego posting on a newsgroup.

On Fri, 21 May 2021 18:56:56 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest...

I am stating my views, the same as you are. I have to deal with reality. I won't be alive to see this.

Like I stated innovation is fueled by business. NOT government. Whatever the gov't mandates is not observing of the negative consequences. It's a knee jerk reaction to a situation in a slice of time.

How do I do that with all the employees plugged in? Think I'll be be able to plugin to the nursing home outlet? Do you think they will have charging stations for visitors?

Different application. A block heater doesn't draw the current a charger would under your scenario.

So the consumer will be paying more. What about the rates going up for people not using EV's? They are a form of subsidization.

We are not discussing that. Let's leave the what if out.

According to you.

But the mandates are for the NEAR future.

We are not closed minded but looking at reality. Why do you attack people with opposing viewpoints instead of appreciating their points?

We can have a real discussion without attacking anyone.

Gotta go again, see ya later.

Hey Bod, is Fretwell right? You Brits have lots of offshore wind farms over there, with one of them (Hornsea One) being 120km out into the north sea. Any major maintenance issues?

Most aircraft aren't designed or built to spend their lives in salt air. Apples and oranges.

Hmmm, I would have thought wind farms should be built where the wind is, but you may have a point. Build the wind farms first, then pipe in the wind from somewhere else. I wonder why no one thought of that already.