OT. Ford Lightning. Battery F150

[Scott Lurndal]

Incorrect. Airbus is planning on using H as a replacement for JET-A and burn it in standard turbofan engines.

"All three ZEROe concepts are hybrid-hydrogen aircraft. They are powered by hydrogen combustion through modified gas turbine engines. Liquid hydrogen is used as fuel for combustion with oxygen."

Incorrect. One mole of H requires 286kJ to disassociate from the O2 molecule in water. One mole of H burned produces 570kJ.

Do you really not know the difference between Helium and Hydrogen? One is 75% of the matter in the universe, the other is 24% of the matter in the universe. The ratios are much more lopsided when you look at planetary sources.

The scarcity of He is the reason for the high prices.

[Scott Lurndal]

Although the "proven reserves" curve has started the downward slide in 2014, after forty years of growth. It is definitely a finite resource, unless you are one of the believers in abiogenic production.

"The world has proven reserves equivalent to 46.6 times its annual consumption levels. This means it has about 47 years of oil left (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves)."

[Joey]

They have gone broke before...

We'll see...

[Tekkie©]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 17:14:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest...

Ed, I am respectfully ending this discussion. You believe the government should control our lives and I don't. I believe the progression of EVs will be the same as horses to cars, steam cars to gasoline. I have other thoughts but I'm over & out. Thank you,

[Tekkie©]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 17:20:01 -0400, [e-mail] posted for all of us to digest...

On a second look at it you are correct. Nothing like running out of your recharged crappy battery 125 miles from destination. Will AAA cover this?

Also the safety points I made in another post.

[Tekkie©]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 17:45:53 -0400, [e-mail] posted for all of us to digest...

IDK what your statement refers to but here is one link:

[Ed Pawlowski]

Fine, but I never said the government should control our lives. I just see the inevitable and EVs will be much of our future.

I'd rather see efforts made to improve them, get rid of the lithium, find better, easier ways to keep them charged. Sorry if that is too progressive.

[Tekkie©]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 18:59:05 -0400, Frank posted for all of us to digest...

Ow, that would be a nut buster. I looked at the web site I posted and didn't find any dimensions or weights. But I saw the remans are by Dorman which to anyone in the trade would know to run from.

[Tekkie©]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 20:08:00 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

Toyota, from very early on had a course on how to handle responses on their vehicles. They have a readily accessible disconnect. It's similar to the protocol with airbags. IIRC Tesla had a course in the county about 6 months or so ago. IDK because I don't get the training notices any more. I could look it up but I'm too lazy. You would be surprised by the amount of people that leave the ignition on & running, transmission in gear. We carry chocks. Need them for unconscious, drunks or overdoses.

[Tekkie©]

On Wed, 26 May 2021 11:32:48 -0400, [e-mail] posted for all of us to digest...

Yeah, foam has to be used on car fires because of the ethanol. They are different from the get go because of the batteries. Also the car manufacturers are using 'exotic' metals so it can be a shit show.

[Tekkie©]

On Tue, 25 May 2021 20:28:32 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

Freihofers is a name that I haven't heard in a loooong time. That was good stuff.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Yes, I know someone that had his EV towed for that reason. His admitted fault. Just as it is stupid to run out of gas. Happened to someone here recently on a highway bridge and a passenger got out and was killed by a drunk driver. So, check that fuel level and if applicable, battery level.

[gfretwell]

There are plenty os studies that question the "green" aspects of E-85 and ethanol in general. Even if you throw out the carbon footprint of the farmers and distillers you are still left with the water issues that everyone forgets about. The Ogallala Aquifer that waters all of that corn is dropping every day and that is fossil water that is not being replaced nearly as fast as we pump it out. They are trying to get farmers to change their ways but planting more corn to burn in cars is not going to help.

"At the current rate of use, part of the Ogallala could be exhausted within this century and may take 6,000 years to restore". James P. Dobrowolski, PhD, National Program Leader, Division of Environmental Systems, National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA), U.S. Department of Agriculture in Research and Science May 01, 2020

California agriculture and a few cities built in the desert (LA, Phoenix and Las Vegas for a few) are draining the Colorado river. Florida is sucking it's aquifers dry.

We are going to run out of fresh water long before we run out of oil.

[gfretwell]

Are you saying you have created the perpetual motion machine?

You seem to be saying you have a way to crack water open, then extract more energy than you put in by recombining it back into water... Way cool.

Perpetual motion only requires you break even on the energy transfer and you seem to say you can double it.

You better get down to the patent office right away.

[gfretwell]

The difference is in how much of the earth we have not explored looking for oil. I understand drilling may have environmental costs we are not going to be willing to absorb but that doesn't mean the fuel isn't there. OTOH it might be a way to inject money into economies in places like sub saharan Africa.

[gfretwell]

It really depends on how wadded up the car is. If a Prius gets hit by a loaded concrete mixer, that disconnect might not be as accessible as Toyota planned.

[Scott Lurndal]

Most of that corn is grown in Iowa and Illinois. There is no, zero, zilch irrigation in either state. They use rainwater. They don't draw down the aquifer.

[Scott Lurndal]

The exploration companies and industry have explored pretty much every viable area, including polar waters. Either physically or computationally (using AI algorithms to process seismic and other geological data).

Not in the quantities needed to support today's daily usage, much less ten years from now.

How so? The oil companies will suck them dry and leave them destitute.

Here's some reading about what happens if we _don't_ have a replacement in place by the time petroleum becomes more scarce.

[Dean Hoffman]

Well, believe it or not there is irrigation in both. Illinois had about 6,600 center pivots back in 2014.

I couldn't find anything about pivots in Iowa. There is irrigation there too. Part of it is driven by seed corn companies. Timing is important in getting the seed going in the spring. The seed should start growing at the same time as much as possible. And either using a pivot to chemigate or to activate chemicals is nice too.

[invalid unparseable]

We are saying let nature take its course absent government intervention.