Electric cars a step nearer mainstream?

Or Doubly Bubbly.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel
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"Mike P" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

I can carry 'em separately, but together...? Fuck, remind me never to get into an argument with you...

Reply to
Adrian

That's meaningless.

That's the limit in urban areas in UK.

You've just completely discredited your statements.

Why would you want to?

Why are you in such a hurry?

Reply to
Mary Fisher

Or chain them together and pull them along a motor way with a vehicle in the centre reservation. A serious idea once. Back to the train.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

outright lie.

One expects nothing less from our chippy imbecile.

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The Natural Philosopher

The Natural Philosopher gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Weighs sod all.

I would assume included.

10kg at most.

Oh, please...

Next-to-nothing.

These 70 nuclear powerstations and tripling of the National Grid - free to build, are they?

Apart from the small detail that 200 miles worth of batteries alone would weigh the same as, if not more than, the petrol car.

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Adrian

"Doctor Drivel" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Riiiight. Now, that would be "Electric hybrids" with the electricity generated by what power source...?

Because there's no way on this planet that a bus is going to be carrying sufficient batteries for a full long day's worth of use, and they don't exactly sit idle for hours on end, either.

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Adrian

The Chunnel (which I assume you are referring to) is hardly MotoRail, it just takes your car across the channel because you can't drive on water.

I'm not even sure the Chunnel is significantly better as regards carbon emissions than putting your car on a ferry anyway.

Motorail is *long distance* transporting of cars by rail, from Calais to the South of France for example. It's still available but seems to be slowly fading away, partly because it's horribly expensive I suspect.

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tinnews

Andy Hall coughed up some electrons that declared:

This is certainly true. I live in a village 3 miles outside of Tunbridge Wells. Thanks to infrequent busses (outside of the school run hour) and silly car parking charges to park in town, there are people here who actually prefer, and claim it is no more expensive, to take their motor to Bluewater, some 29 miles away.

Go figure what that does to the environment...

It is also a problem created in part by a lack of joined up thinking by the local government bodies.

Reply to
Tim S

Petrol. Boy you are slow. This goon wants us all to go back to the 1950s. Well it takes all sorts.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

Totally true. You are obsessed with nuclear power. You are a plantpot really. Sad.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

I remember reading about an idea for automated cars working in that sort of way (not chained - just controlled as if one vehicle). they said that woulkd allow cars to run closer together at high speeds. In my view, no designed system could ever allow the 90 mph bumper-to-bumper driving that was then prevalent on soem of the roads I used. Just the safety margins to allow for ordianry failuers (burst tyres, running out of fuel, engine stops working) would have increase the gap and slowed down the traffic compared to the reality.

Reply to
Rod

Oh you poor sod! I feel for you.

Are you blaming Boris the Turk for this? He can't think joined up or not.

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Doctor Drivel

"Doctor Drivel" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Blimey, why'd they bother starting with a Mini, then - re-engineering the drivetrain's one thing, but to completely re-engineer the suspension too...

Reply to
Adrian

What incoherent off topic babble.

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Doctor Drivel

"Mary Fisher" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

...but more to the point...

You've never tried to keep a Pious in ZEV mode, then? Seriously, the acceleration available before the petrol engine is kicked in automatically is absolutely woeful.

Why wouldn't two people share the driving?

Because I'd rather spend an hour at my destination than sat in a motorway services?

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Adrian

"Doctor Drivel" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Not the 1.9 diesel engines already in use in diesel-electric hybrid buses in London, then...?

Reply to
Adrian

Properly designed, an electric car will have regen braking. This will recover a significant amount of the potential energy when you go down hill.

Provided, of course, you don't use the brake pedal!

Regen braking can also recover a significant amount of the KE used in town driving - stop-start cycle.

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Richard Torrens

The message from The Natural Philosopher contains these words:

Rail travel is not conspicuously greener* than car travel in the first place so adding the dead weight of a car to the equation would kill any potential saving.

*Rail travel is on a par per passenger with an average car with two aboard.
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Roger

The message from The Natural Philosopher contains these words:

Yes but switching to diesel saves precious little. It is a gross exaggeration to claim that switching to diesel has "dramatically brought down" fuel consumption let alone carbon consumption and with the price disparity these days the economic benefit is looking a bit thin as well.

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Roger

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