British Workers Wanted - Channel 4

Its human nature to wish bad things to those who disrupt your life through taking selfish industrial action. If the union members were unhappy with pay and conditions, they could just get another job.

It was one reason why Maggie Thatcher rose to power. A large section of the electorate wanted Arthur Scargill to sport a blooded nose. She kindly served that on a plate, the rest is history.

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Fredxxx
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Would that include immigrant labour - or would you exclude them?

We're told employment is at an all time high. You think it easy to sack an entire workforce and replace them?

The best laugh I've had was when management decided to do 'our' jobs when we were on strike. They gave up after breaking a few things.

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Dave Plowman (News)

I'd suggest you actually find out the average council house rent in London.

It will almost certainly surprise you. But then true figures don't seem to be your strong point. Presumably gleaned from the Mail.

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Dave Plowman (News)

I am sure you can but as I do not live in London it would be a bit of a waste of my cash. :-)

I have however just looked at the price of Stagecoach tickets and a 52 week ticket for "the south" that only covers the coast from Portsmouth to Worthing, so not as far east as Brighton because at Shoreham it changes to a different bus company, is £844.

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Yellow

Make the most of it!

I do not live in London and was not aware it covered more than buses there.

I would simply love to be able to use buses to travel around my entire area without the hassle of tickets that only take you so far. Just to be able to get on a bus, get off and get on to another one without having to pre-plan. Bliss.

I have loads of friends who are old enough to qualify and they buzz about all over the place and think nothing of going to towns miles away just to have lunch and a walk round.

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Yellow

And a standard socialist mantra is that giving people benefits will win them votes. Doesn't matter if it works or not. Or who it hurts.

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Yellow

I have my own washing machine (which I got for free as it happens) but clearly there is a market for launderette on the south coast. Make of that what you will. :-)

Students and flats in general might both create a market for a local launderette. Dunno.

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Yellow

Which is now £155 (plus the inflation increases since it was introduced).

The way SERPS is now handled is that you will either get the £155 or the basic under the old system plus your SERPS entitlement, whichever is more. My entitlement for example, although I am not old enough to receive it yet, will be under the old system as that is greater than £155.

And self employment is irrelevant, and I was self employed for many years so know this for a fact, and it is simply based on the number of years you paid your NI. If you are paid up, you will get the £155.

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Yellow

Good for him. :-) But I bet one or two will be along later to comment on how "lucky" your friend is.

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Yellow

Here we go again with that "ah, but" line.

How, out of interest, do you think anyone below pension age and without a "decent pension which enabled him to go to college" gets trained for anything?

And if you are unemployed, training is generally a free option on the table offered as an alternative to seeking work.

And that assertion is that there are jobs available, especially if you have skills.

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Yellow

I am curious - why do you think the employed who are capable of work should get benefits that are high enough to live on comfortably, in the long term?

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Yellow

People keep doing this. First someone asserts that RP is £119 a week (when it's £155 minimum for new claims and more than that if Pension Credit is involved).

Now UB is apparently £57 a week when it's actually £73 a week for claimants over 25 (that's the contributory rates) and up to £23,000 a years in London and £20,000 a year in rUK at the means-tested rates whether above or below 25.

The flat rate only lasts 26 weeks anyway and for claimants with no other resources (and especially if they have housing costs or dependants), they'll get the means-tested variety, which is more.

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JNugent

Did it have no form of heating at all, not even in the ground floor living rooms?

Only if the answer to that question is "no" does it tend to disprove what I said.

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JNugent

Yeah, but that's easier still with a car!

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JNugent

I like the car for transporting goods or if it is pouring with rain or if I have lots of places to visit in one day, but personally I would rather take the bus for a leisurely day out or a trip to the sea front on a busy Sunday.

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Yellow

At £70k a pop for a unskilled/semi skilled job, I would have no trouble at all.

Murdock had no problem in replacing the print workers, remember?

I might have thought you would be calling them scabs?

Are you the sort to support the supply of labour in protectionists schemes.

Most employees I know if unhappy with the pay and conditions simply move. If pay and conditions are the market norm, then it's best to stay put and shut up.

Some companies went out of business through union action. Red Robbo comes to mind.

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Fredxxx

that's it

there is nothing in the headline announcement that says this

it is hidden in the smallest of small print

like me you mean

and my contracted out payments certainly wont be making up the difference

(though I will be able to take them as cash)

tim

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tim...

only if fully paid up NOT contracted out

Yes they did

with 35 years contributions it comes as a surprise that my pension expectation is 120 pounds something

tim

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tim...

Yup. A train driver can simply get a job as a merchant banker at 300 grand a year. Problem solved. Do love the way many think others should do such and such. But never themselves, of course. Their job is essential and worth every penny.

Yes it is. The current housing mess very much down to her. And so much else. Making naked greed fashionable being the most obvious.

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Dave Plowman (News)

The Freedom pass doesn't include coaches. Only local service buses. If I need to travel outside London, I have to pay the excess.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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