We are in need of a maid / house cleaner for monthly cleanings, and my
neighbor's teenage daughter is interested in doing it.
What's the going hourly rate for a teenage girl to do basic house cleaning?
I don't want to overpay, but I definately want her to get enough, because I
don't want her to quit and have to hire an impersonal cleaning service.
Find out what an impersonal cleaning service would charge and pay her that
amount. I think people should be paid based on the quality of work they do,
not their age, gender, or any other characteristic.
<< Find out what an impersonal cleaning service would charge and pay her that
amount. I think people should be paid based on the quality of work they do,
not their age, gender, or any other characteristic. >>
Huh? Don't you think an impersonal cleaning service would be more skilled at
cleaning a house?
Would you see this in rec.auto.body.repair?
We are in need of an autobody person for body work, and my neighbor's teenage
son is interested in doing it.
What's the going hourly rate for a teenage boy to do basic auto body work?
I don't want to overpay, but I definately want him to get enough, because
I don't want him to quit and have to pay a professional auto body shop.
See "Nickled & Dimed; On (Not) Getting By in America" by Barbara
Ehrenreich. Maid/cleaning services pay workers minimum wage or very
slightly above. And "skilled" isn't in the job description.
For the OP, what's it worth to you? What would *you* ask to be paid
for the service? Are you willing to spend time training the neighbor's
kid in exactly what you expect and how to do it? The best estimate
would be to do everything you want done, clock the time it takes, and
pay *at least* minimum wage for that time period.
Unless you make it clear (and have a good understanding yourself)
*precisely* what's expected, you will be disappointed.
Your neighbor's kid won't have the added expense of travel or (I
presume) bringing her own supplies, so minimum wage should be a
starting point. If you mean to include laundry, pet care, window &
woodwork washing, etc., I'd buck that minimum up a bit.
Why would I? If you hire someone to clean your house and they do a good job
then they deserve the going wage. If their work doesn't meet your
expectations then you need to talk with them. If you don't expect a good
job and you are going to pay them a fraction of the going wage then I think
you need to explain that to them up front. (But why bother hiring someone
who you don't think will be thorough?) The key to success in such cases is
having a clear set of expectation and communicating them to the person doing
I had a college student who cleaned my home and office. She was very
thorough. I have had to fire "impersonal cleaning services" because they
didn't do a good job. In one case they broke several things, constantly set
off the alarm system, locked themselves out of the house, and locked the dog
in the basement. Another firm that touted themselves as "restoration
specialists" accidentally sprayed oven cleaner on my kitchen cabinets and
ruined the finish and dulled the lacquer finish on the cornice of my china
cabinet. I had to take legal action to recover from their "professional"
services. Cleaning services range from very professional and thorough to a
person with a station wagon, some rags, and bottle of Windex. The best
residential cleaning service that I used was Merry Maids. The very best job
was done by the college student. I don't see why a teenager couldn't clean
as well as a 40 year old, especially if you told them what you expected them
to do. In the case of Merry Maids, they had a room-by-room list of tasks
and a weekly, bi-weekly, and monthly schedule of what they would do. They
left the check-off list after each session. You have to decide who is going
to supply the tools and cleaning agents, when they are going to arrive, and
how disputes are going to be handled. For instance, if the person didn't
clean something to your expectations then how are you going to resolve the
matter? It is far better to decide this up-front than to stew over it for a
How much skill does it take to do basic house cleaning ?
I know of a man that installs carpets and he has a son that was 19 at the
time this hapened. He sent his son to install some in a house in the
country club area. The woman sent him away because he was not ole enough.
After she asked some of the other women in the area who did their carpets
she found out the boy had done many of them and they were very nice. She
called the caprpet man and wnated the boy back and he answered the boy was
only 2 weeks older and he did not think that was old enough to send back to
I don't know about body work, but some of the teenage boys I knew when
growing up could repair the mechanical parts of a car beter than most
How bout finding out what the company would charge and then split the
difference?....After all the teenager does not have any insurance etc in
case of breakage/theft whatever....
Win win for both..
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I would think the neighbor's daughter would be much more careful. The
"professional" person/company may not be careful because they figure
Afaic, it all boils down to whether the OP wants some "impersonal"
stranger wandering around inside their home, or a close neighbor. I'd
choose the neighbor, and pay well enough to ensure a decent job.
Frankly, your attitude sounds un-American.
My country club used to have a greenskeeper who had been a Marine in
WWII. During the Vietnam War, he hired an ex-Marine who had come back
from Vietnam. A few weeks later, he reported that in 30 years, he had
never before seen anyone mow the greens in less than four hours, but
this veteran always finished in less than two. He asked to give him a
raise above the minimum wage.
We said no. After all, a Vietnam veteran was lucky to have any job at
all. He proved us right by continuing to work as hard as ever.
Americans are paid acording to their needs and obligations, such as
country-club dues. If we were paid according to how hard we worked,
there would be no money for country clubs, and veterans would have no
jobs mowing grass. That would be un-American.
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My experience has always been that someone who works hard by
nature will work hard at any job they accept. They might not
accept the job, and I do think there is an obligation to pay
them fairly -- but I have never gotten any more work out of
someone by giving them a pay increase. I give them a pay
increase as a sign of my appreciation for their work and because
I want them to continue to work for me. Assuming the work is
good, I usually pay a bit more than I've promised.
If you want something to get done, give it to an ex-marine. The
job *will* get done.
The Other Harry is right.
When you pay too much, you tend to create a fat and lazy employee that feels
that (whatever their sex) deserves even more.
Underpayment is bad, but overpayment causes you to loose in the wallet, and
Don't agree. A "cleaning service" makes money by organizing and
delivering workers. Some highly reputable ones even manage benefits,
social security payments, taxes, etc. The going rate they *charge* may
be far more than an individual worker receives. Cleaning involves more
work than, say, casual baby-sitting. The most ethical solution would
be to offer minimum wage and do the SSI/tax paperwork and payments.
Many of these jobs, however, are "off the book," and more or less just
direct cash payment. Still not a reason to exploit the worker.
Something *between* minimum wage and what a cleaning "service" charges
would be reasonably fair.
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