Why will there be no XL Pipeline to bring Canadian oil to the US?
Because Warren wants to play for a while with his new train set.
Still confused why crony capitalist #1, the "rustic" Octogenarian of
Omaha, and Obama tax advisor #1, Warren Buffett has been aggressively
attempting to corner the railroad market, while the administration
relentlessly refuses to allow assorted new, and very much competing
petroleum pipelines from America's neighbor to the north to cross
through the US (in gratitude for the former's generous "tax advice" and
pedigree by association)? Hint: it's not concern about the environment.
The answer is the chart below.
> Why will there be no XL Pipeline to bring Canadian oil to the US?
> Because Warren wants to play for a while with his new train set.
> Still confused why crony capitalist #1, the "rustic" Octogenarian of
> Omaha, and Obama tax advisor #1, Warren Buffett has been aggressively
> attempting to corner the railroad market, while the administration
> relentlessly refuses to allow assorted new, and very much competing
> petroleum pipelines from America's neighbor to the north to cross
> through the US (in gratitude for the former's generous "tax advice" and
> pedigree by association)? Hint: it's not concern about the environment.
> The answer is the chart below.
> http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2 ...
Railways are the transport of the future.
Buffet knows this.
The USA is decades behind, as usual.
Oil as a fuel will be virtually extinct in thirty or forty years.
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 00:12:44 -0800 (PST), harry
>Railways are the transport of the future.
>Buffet knows this.
>The USA is decades behind, as usual.
>Oil as a fuel will be virtually extinct in thirty or forty years.
The pipe is still many times more efficient than using a train to move
I also doubt the rest of the world is ahead of the US in freight
trains. It is the passenger train that we do not embrace and a lot of
that has to do with how spread out we are. You still need to get to
and from the train station. Whole countries in Europe are the size of
states here and we only have a handful of states with typical European
population densities.They have effective mass transit in most of those
On Mar 10, 3:14 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
The USA is ideal for passenger trains, especially across the mid
West. High speed passenger trains. You could have the fastest rains
in the world.
But nothing has been done.
People in the USA are stuck in the past. And the politicians.
Sure it is. Do you have any idea how big the US midwest is
and how far apart all the cities are? How much expensive
high speed track it would take to connect even a decent subset
of just some of the major cities? And the point to doing it is what,
When airplanes that can go anywhere are already available?
Take a look at the true cost of unsubsidized travel and
airplanes are hard to beat. Amtrak for example, which is actually
heavily subsidized, has ticket prices that are about the same as the
airlines. And that is with the current rail system, not your
proposed high speed, which would have to charge substantially
higher ticket prices and would still take substantially longer to get
you to your destination. So, I;'d say it's you who is stuck in
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Do you have any idea that China is a communist country,
that labor costs, environmental costs, safety considerations, are
significantly different than in the USA?
That when a state controls everything, fixes prices, wages,
material costs, that it's not the real world?
I've been on the fastest train in the world. It connects
the Shanghai airport to the city. It was cute, nice to say
I've done it, but it offered no overwhelming advantage.
I've been on the Eurostar between London and Paris.
WTF is up with that? It takes 2 1/2 hours and the cost
is similar to airline prices which takes 1 1/2 hours. Again,
there is no compelling advantage. And that is for two
cities that are close, not like the US midwest. So, why the
fixation on trains?
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The advantage is that you can start/finish in the city centre, not
have to travel out to an airport.
Besides, aircraft/travel will disappear as fossil fuels become
You get a lot more space on the train too.
Why the fixation on flying?
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Wow and for that we're supposed to spend trillions of dollars?
So people get a little more room on a train versus a plane for
a two hour journey?
I have no fixation on flying. I'm not the one proposing that we
need more planes. YOU are the one claiming there is something
drastically wrong with not having a huge high speed rail system
in the USA linking up the midwest. YOU don't even live here.
I do and I'm perfectly happy letting the marketplace decide it's
own transportation options, not some commie sitting in the UK.
# The advantage is that you can start/finish in the city centre, not
# have to travel out to an airport.
# Besides, aircraft/travel will disappear as fossil fuels become
# You get a lot more space on the train too.
# Why the fixation on flying?
Because it's cheaper and faster for the distances involved in the US, and
does NOT require the building of rails for high-speed trains
No up-front costs
Lower operating costs
Better return on Investment.
See how simple that is ?
You're just trying to shove a solution at the wrong problem
And how far ahead of time do you have to arrive at the airport compared
to how far ahead of time you have to arrive at the train station? And do
you get fondled by TSA operatives at the train station?
The customs on Eurostar was almost nonexistent. I think they stamped my
passport and that was about it. There must be some deal between European
nations. As far as "how long", I don't know, but I was reading one
review that said they preferred the Chunnel to a ferry with regards to
It hasn't been done here in the USA and he's right. Any new high
speed train would be every bit a target as an airplane. As soon as it
happens, you'd have TSA procedures for it. In fact, I would fully
you'd have those procedures put into place as part of the plan to
Not in the US. It may shock you but we don't really follow European
news here and we are very detached to what happened there.
There was virtually no reaction to that Scandinavian guy who shot up
the summer camp but Jodi Arius is the only thing on TV here..
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