Some hybrids don't even give you the option of charging the battery externally. They are more about reducing emissions in town - or even with some to give better performance. As the electric motor can assist the IC one when accelerating hard.
Not sure where it says how far that 75% travel though and what percentage of those 'staying in the UK' won't actually be going on holiday at all (like us)?
Cheers, T i m
I was listening to a podcast where they were looking at what could happen i n the USA when 30% of the cars become electric, in that gas stations won;t be able to survive with the drop in revenue due to less car requiring gas a nd the pumps would close making it difficult to relibely find a gas station when you need one like you can now. Petrol stations in the UK seem to rely on the attached supermarked or shops to survive and I;ve not seen any plans for how they'll start charging for electricity used for charging either at home or on route as you do with pe trol/diesel.
In article , whisky-dave writes
Charging en route is straightforward. Charging at home other than via the standard metering would be a bit more complicated.
given that "gas stations" functioned perfectly well when there were 30% fewer cars on the road than now
that's bollocks
a 90% drop may be a problem
tim
But there are less around these days. Even with more cars. And if their turnover dropped due to more electric cars, plenty more would close.
Which is why I wouldn't be too sure filling a petrol car will always be more convenient than plugging in an electric one.
But they didn't and aren't which is why the have shops attached to them now. With less cars using liquid fuel they'll be less liquid fule being sold and used.
your talking bollocks or lets just say I'll listen to those that know what they are talking about. Most 'gas' stations in teh states will not become profitable with a 30% drop in revenue most business would be in trouble if that happened.
If yuo want a clue and can understand them, look how much 15% in the value of the pound against the dollar is causing in inflation.
Much of the inflation is being hidden for now by companies cutting down the size of products.
For example Andrex rolls used to have 240 sheets and now they have 200 sheets so that's a >20% increase in price per sheet but the RPI still thinks they are the same price.
It will be some time before people learn what is really happening.
That's because predatory pricing by supermarkets made selling just fuel less profitable
tim
lue of the pound against the dollar is causing in inflation.
That's always been done nothing new there. I remmeber a friend in Greece te lling me how much shorter phone calls got for the same price when the euro was briougght in she even showed me a phonecard (at the time) you got about 8% less call time. So don't try telling me this has only happened because of BREXIT.
I know I can tell the size by the diameter and height (which I think has sh runk too slightly) I have some old rolls to compare somewhere.
Do you remmeber the price of potatoes going up in price years ago and bag o f chips reaching almost a quid. Te priced never came down again and I've no ticed again portaions are starting to shrink.
Creme eggs used to be like chicken eggs nore they almost quale like in size . I'm sure the 2 finger kit-kat I had today was smaller than last years.
Round here, the supermarket locals have bought up lots of the filling stations for their shops - and sell petrol at the normal price. Generally, you need an out of town supermarket for cheap fuel.
The ONS do seem to have cottoned-on to that ...
Except, the world can 'naturally' sustain their way of life in a way it can't, without massive assistance (and interference) from us, sustain ours.
The earth has been here ~4.5 billion years, life has been here ~4.28 billion, humans ~300,000 thousand and we have consumed most of it's natural recourses in the last what, 200 years?
So, we have thousands of years of proof how man (and animals before that even longer) were able to live here without consuming all it's recourses and (possibly) pollution it to the level it is now whilst we were at it but no idea that it's all going to be fine if we carry on as we are.
One thing you can be sure of though is that people learned pretty early on that you had to have some form of vent in your cave so you didn't die whilst breathing the fumes created by burning stuff. Now those fumes are mostly invisible and odourless, we (the great unwashed) don't seem to consider them an issue (till we see thousands dying for 'no reason').
It's like anything (renewable), if you take at an appropriate rate then you can keep taking indefinably (like cod), but once you go above that threshold you stand a chance of losing the lot and for ever.
With the non renewable's you can only take it once and many of our early predecessors knew to consume both types at a rate that would probably last till we all burn up with the sun.
Assuming humanity lives long enough to to be able to look back on itself, we may be disgusted and embarrassed how we assumed we had the right to consume everything as we have recently. To have the *need* to maintain the different sides of the insides of our cars at different temperatures (within the same enclosed tiny box).
We are like foxes in a chicken coop and we will have nothing to eat once they are all gone and we don't as yet know if there is another planet with any more.
Cheers, T i m
Well if things get too short in the future then the Human population will shrink by war famine and disease until the remnants can live that lifestyle again. I don't actually give a shit because I won't be here.
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That last line sums it up for me , we know the planet will become un habitable one day so why should we worry about stretching out resources till then
They will be about as disgusted and embarrassed as I am that I can't eat a Dodo or have a wooly Mammoth skin coat because somebody already ate them all. Ie not very much
You care about those that are to come, I'm not that bothered .
If it was to bother me then should I not be downgrading my lifestyle by selling my possessions and giving the proceeds to make a strangers lot better now while degrading my own lot rather than worring about strangers in the future.
G.Harman
But with respect you don't know that. Millions (billions?) of people do care (and are starting to care more) when they hear of an animal near extinction as they realise they are all part of the balance of life as we know it today. There are programmes in place to protect these endangered species etc.
You may not and of course you are entitled to your opinion. However, I would suggest most people who were younger and especially those with children may well be.
No one has suggested anyone do that ... I was just suggesting that there could be a time when what we did would be considered squandering and wouldn't be allowed (but could be achieved via other and more sustainable means [1]). Like being forced to drive an EV in the city, even though it negatively impacted you personally but improved the health of the millions living there. [1]
If everyone was in it purely for themselves then even more people would have even less than the little they have now.
Cheers, T i m
[1] You may have seen SiFi films where people (who could afford it) lived in the high-rise buildings, up in the fresh air whilst the poor people had to live nearer the ground in the smog. Or rather than banning IC engines in the city, everyone walks round wearing breathing gear but buildings were hermetically sealed and internally 'purified'.Ha ha. The bus at Kew Gardens, assuming its still there, could only run for a short time due to it having solar charging on its roof.
Brian
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