The OP is upset because a lot of the people on this NG have not condoned his anti-social behaviour.
Yet, he regards himself as superior: "Luckily we still retain vestiges of civilisation in this country, despite the influences of the invading hoards. Bill "
Blocking the drains and causing much inconvenience to other people doesn't strike me as very civilised, but there you go.
Local authorities probably don't allocate their most able staff to ordering toilet paper.
Why / how?
If you only have a septic tank or some other non mains form of sewage disposal why wouldn't it make sense to use a paper that was perfectly adequate for the job but dissolved away quicker afterwards and so less likely to block systems?
And it does break down much faster than conventional toilet papers, I've tested it.
It's the epitome of what disposable things are supposed to be. There to do the job for just as long as required and then vanish leaving as little pollution as possible soon afterwards?
It seems to be the very opposite of wet wipes in fact. ;-(
Cheers, T i m
Bingo.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your first comment. As soon as people are made (or are by default) responsible for their actions they (generally) treat such responsibilities more seriously.
As soon as you (they) have your own property you might start looking after it and then have more respect for the property of others (like kids kicking footballs up against other peoples cars or how (some people) people treat rented cars or houses).
We generally leave holiday homes cleaner than when we found them. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
Yup, fewer trees cut down and energy used turning them into paper.
Cheers, T i m
Where, ISTR, piles (and bowel cancer) are much rarer than Europe.
The OP strikes me as a petulant child who blames everyone else for problems in the world whilst refusing to acknowledge his part in them.
No amount of stamping of his feet is going to magically transform our sewer network into one that can accept fibrous materials that don?t break down and snag on the slightest imperfection.
In addition to their potential to cause blockages (we had foolish neighbours for a while who suffered regular blockages due to wet wipes) as a regular beach litter picker I am all too aware that wet wipes frequently slip through the filters.
Tim
They would, but if it cost them money on a regular basis to call someone out they might not be so ready to put anything down there in the future.
Assuming that most people would "get a man in" rather than tackling the unblocking job themselves, it probably doesn't make much difference whether or not the people are disabled (and therefore less able to do the unblocking) - the risk of doing it and the cost of rectifying it is the same.
Where we used to live, several houses in two terraces shared a common drain which kept getting blocked up. The water company, who are responsible for any communal drain, kept finding tampons down there, matted together. Apart from ourselves, everyone in those houses was elderly and so the women were long beyond using tampons and sanitary towels, and my wife knows *very* well not to put that sort of thing down there. Except that one couple sometimes had their teenage grand-daughters to stay... Hmmm! The water company were scrupulous in sending the same reminder letter to all of us, but I think we know where it needs to be acted upon.
Who decided that wet wipes were necessary ?.
The Japanese don't use them, they have a better solution.
And bidets used to be standard fitment in up-market bathrooms but no-one seems to bother now.
There was a program about the new super sewer in London where volunteers went onto the Thames 'beaches' at low tide to collect and count the number of wet wipes. It was astonishing how many they were finding per square metre.
Well don't go on holiday to parts of Greece and South America then if you think that's a problem.
Err, they are highly relevant. Wet Wipes, kitchen towels and fat from commercial kitchens, plus the occasional tree root are bad news for the water companies.
When it is backed up by visual evidence, then yes.
It is the things that occur around the world that they mass media decide not to show or tell us that is of more concern.
Like the fact that most of the plastic pollution at sea comes from about 6 rivers in South Asia, which the locals use as their rubbish disposal mechanism.
The ones dangling from fences and hedges where I live seem to hang around for ages.
It's bloody nuisance for someone living in a ground floor flat, when some stupid female up on the 4th floor blocks the outside manhole by chucking wet wipes, disposable nappies and god knows what down the loo, so that the sewage backflows into the ground floor flat.
IME (in this area) much of the Victorian or earlier stuff was built with combined. Once you get to the '50s its usually separate. In between its a bit of a lottery.
More room needed. The trend in the UK has been to shrink everything housewise.
The communist answer would be to ban their production anyway and convert the factory into producing orange polyester carpet that only comes in one width. The 6 o'clock news bulletin would always finish with a rundown of the weeks production target of orange carpet, tractors and margerine.
You would have to use your compulsory copy of pravda as bog paper.
So get the team of 2 or 3 'carers' provided by the council to do it.
"One other factor distinguishes the British toilet-roll market. Go to any supermarket and you will be confronted by an extraordinary choice of more than 50 colours, sizes and brands. Honeysuckle, warm pink, summer peach, pearl white, meadow green, breeze blue and magnolia are just some of the shades on offer. The reason for this variety is apparently that the British shopper insists that her toilet paper matches the colour scheme of her bathroom."
That's odd. I've never seen pampas green or avocado coloured loo paper.
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