OT: Rejoiners

We'll see...

The USA did.

They are still joining it.

Hasnt stopped most of europe choosing to join it.

Very few will do that.

Nope, reality.

Yes.

Nope, the poms still piss tons of money against thewall having kids dressed up in antique uniforms on horses as tourist traps in London. That isnt going to change.

Neither will bycycles, cutlery, drinking glasses, food, pets etc etc etc.

Nope, the turnip and the peeler are nothing even remotely like normal.

I am sure that even you think you are normal and it is other people who are not.

Only a Brexiteer who is worried that 67% of the British public now support a referendum on rejoining would feel the need to post something like that.

Andrew snipped-for-privacy@btinternet.com posted

Give it time. Transporting freight by ships is a pretty new idea and people need to get used to it. Once all the early teething problems are sorted out I'm sure it'll be all right.

No I don't.

Only a tiny handful.

Or someone who realises that there is no way that the UK would be silly enough to go thru the massive disruption involved all over again and the compulsion to lose the pound.

If that is what they believe, they don't need the reassurance of such a post.

Before the 2016 referendum the polls suggested that Remain would win.

Most election polls consistently underestimate the number of Labour votes and seats.

The 2016 referendum was won because many who are otherwise silent on the matter voted according to their beliefs.

In short polls are inaccurate as there are sections of the population that are inaccessible for one reason or another.

I'm not worried about anther referendum, but suppose Remain won, how long do you think it should be before a second Leave referendum? 10 years, 20? Do give us a clue.

We were told by a principally remain government that it was a once in a lifetime referendum? Was there anything wrong with specifying that period of time?

Or is it simply you're a poor loser?

Irrelevant to why he posted it.

You don't know that. The other possibility is that enough of the remainers decided that there was no chance that the majority would vote to leave and so didnt bother to vote.

That isnt likely to be the reason with a national referendum.

The very fundamental problem with polls is that it is never going to be possible to only poll those who are actually going to vote on the day or by postal vote.

No one knows. It was impossible to predict that Cameron would choose to have the referendum to shut up the leavers in his party necause he was sure the referendum would fail.

And doesnt have a clue about political realitys.

Which most of them do not.

It's not just a matter of the bag that the poop goes into. It's what's then done with the bag. The fashion for hanging the bags on trees and bushes along doggy walk paths seems to have been replaced.

Now they're being dumped down the crappers in public toilets. This new method won't last long. All the easily accessible public toilets around these parts are being closed due to blocked drains as a result.

Take even the most socially useful systems and we humans will soon find a way of abusing it to destruction.

As was done with our beneficial membership of the EU.

Wow. It must be frustrating to say "This Europe thing will collapse soon" for 50 years.

I don't think anybody was more surprised that they were wrong than the Leave campaigners. They obviously hadn't made any plans about what to do if they did win.

According to a post-referendum analysis, the reasons Leave won were far more complex than that. Support among the British people for membership was unusually low, compared to previous years. The 2008 recession left many people discontented and unrepresented. The mass migrations from Africa were at their peak, driving racist elements in the population to support Brexit, in the mistaken belief that the EU was in a position to get the UK to take some of them in. The split camp in Leave, with Boris attracting those who felt themselves as respectable and conservative and Nigel leading a populist campaign, worked to unify the vote, instead of the more usual result of a split camp meaning a split vote.

However, such inaccuracies are usually measured in percentage points. A poll that shows that 67% of the population are in favour of a poll on rejoining and 24% are against might not have the exact percentages right, but it won't be wrong about the overall mood. A party that promises a new referendum would probably gain votes in the next General Election.

It probably wouldn't matter, as all the factors that gave Leave the win are very unlikely to coincide at the same time again.

No government can make a promise that lasts beyond the lifetime of their period in power.

Nobody has won or lost. It is a continuing campaign and the referendum was just one battle.