I'm not commenting on EU membership especially - it's a curate's egg as far as I'm concerned, but countries such as Norway and Switzerland in the EEA have virtually equivalent trading relationships with EU member states as though they were inside the EU.
From what I've seen, many have a scale of charges, depending upon the value of the work that is being carried out.
DIY work value being estimated at the full professional whack for the job, of course....
If you read the Maastricht Treaty;- you'll find that The High Contracting Parties (HM Queen) recognising the desires of her citizens for 'an ever closer union' authorised her Ministers - Foreign Secretary and Prime Minister- to sign the Treaty of Maastricht creating the 'European Union'. Until that signature it was merely a Economic Community. The Treaty of Maastricht made _us_ first a citizen of the EU with rights and privileges with (in our case ) the adjectival adjunct of 'Citizens of the UK of GB +NI, Citizens of the EU may purchase property in any of the States of the EU - except for Germans who aren't allowed (by opt-out) to buy Beach-Huts in Denmark - You think I'm joking don't you? There is theoretical freedom of movement for EU citizens between its countries (btw the thinking 'country' is seriously ungood and indicative of a need for reprogramming^W newpeak education - 'Brussels' prefer the usage of 'Regions' just like that nice SoS for DETR ^W; SoS for E&R ^W; DPM Mr Prescott advocates)
I'm somewhat surprised, Jerry; that you seem ignorant (less harshly unaware) of this position.
Have you ever read the Treaty of Maastricht?
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes
Isn't that a bit like saying you'll have no trouble with burglars if you just hand them the keys?
Remind me never to enter into a discussion with someone who is capable of such misrepresentation (not to mention presumption)
How was anything I said different (except for detail) from what you said, it was Dave who seemed unsure as to what the situation is - with friends and family either owning property and / or living and working in EU member states, countries or regions (take your pick...) out side the UK I'm hardly not going to know.
Back to your 1960's, pre-fab, tower block....
In message , Paper2002AD writes
You have to get used to DIMM's unparalleled powers of argument
In message , Tim writes
Since when has experience come into it ?
It's a matter of being a member of the correct body, i.e. having paid your dues
I wasn't trying to be insulting, as it happens I'm a C.Eng. as well, I'm a Eur Ing even. I was just pointing out that, as far as I know, that bestows no right whatsoever to sign electrical test certificates with any more authority than any (non engineer) member of the public.
... and the alternative to self certification is what?
As I understand it at present *anyone* can sign an inspection certificate, there's no specific qualification required.
[if this is here twice, sorry, my keyboard ran amuck]
I wasn't trying to be insulting, as it happens I'm a C Eng too (and Eur Ing), it's just that, as far as I understand it, being a 'proper' engineer gives one no extra right to sign inspection certificates at all.
Oh NO! Not another dumbo.
No.
In Kent?
Yep..
Now you are just being very silly... :~(
Sorry - I misunderstood you.
BTW - I didn't mean to insinuate that you were insulting him, only that the law-to-be was, except that I misread the post :/
Cheers
Tim
BTW...I found the really good thing about being a Eur Ing was..screwing up the column organisation on my employer's staff lists!
Considering we are a net debtor to Europe, that's a bit rich...
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