Here's another little mess that Prescott and the EU have cooked up

From 1st January it will become a criminal offence for householders to carry out most electrical work without getting council approval. And, as from January 1 it will similarly become an offence, punishable by fines of up to £5,000, to sell a property without a certificate for any electrical work carried out after the new law comes into force.

"After January 1, any of us wishing to carry out any but minor electrical works in our homes may find that, under the new "Part P" of the Building Regulations, we have fallen foul of one of the more bizarre legislative shambles of recent years. The new regulations, introduced by Mr Prescott's Office of the Deputy Prime Minister only last summer, to conform with an edict from Cenelec, the Brussels-based "Committee for the Normalisation of Electrotechnology", impose draconian new rules on anyone needing to carry out electrical work in the home.

Apart from simple jobs such as the replacement of a cracked light socket, electrical work will be legal only if carried out in one of two ways. First, every electrician, however experienced, will have to be certified as a "competent person". This will require him or her to pay between £350 and £1,500 to be "monitored" for six months by employees of one of a handful of private companies appointed by the ODPM as "certifying bodies". During that time, the electrician will be disbarred from carrying out any but minor works, except while his work is being monitored, possibly by someone very much less experienced than himself. He will subsequently have to pay a similar annual fee to have his certificate renewed.

The only alternative, applying to householders themselves as much as to professional electricians, will be to submit plans of most electrical work in advance to the building control department of the local council. This will include work of any kind in a kitchen or bathroom. The council will then have to be paid to inspect the work."

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Jake
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Some electrical work.

??? That's a new one on me.

It's nothing whatever to do with CENELEC. It's an extension of the UK building regulations.

Wrong - they have the option of using local authority or independent building control procedures.

It can be done on a building notice, which only requires a brief description of the proposed work to be submitted 48 hours before you start. There's no need to "submit plans."

Yes, it's a right PITA, but the whole subject of Part P has been discussed here extensively over the last two years or so. Approved Document 'P' can be downloaded from here

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Reply to
Andy Wade

And a payment of how much?

Reply to
Peter Parry

Good question, and one on which the local building control dept's website remains silent. But at a guess, either too much or far too much.

Reply to
Andy Wade

What? Should we rely on other papers for truthful reporting about the EU? The Mirror perhaps, or the Guardian?

Just for a month, read the Christopher Booker column in the Sunday Telegraph and learn about some of the idiocies emanating from our European masters.

Reply to
Paper2002AD

It's in the Torygraph so it must be true? Please.

Reply to
Tony Hogarty

If you're going look at the horses teeth then how about looking into the horses mouth rather than the mouth of someone who thinks they are a Horse ?....

The stable can be found at this address;

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Reply to
:::Jerry::::

If the same regs came out under the Tories they would laud it as wonderful for the public at large. You have to know what you are reading..and then drop it as it is propaganda.

Reply to
IMM

If you want a down the middle line read the Guardian. It has a reputation above all others.

Reply to
IMM

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You really are a f****it.

Reply to
Steve Firth

The government has a bad track record of agitating for European legislation then holding its hands up and saying "not us, those nasty Europeans".

However in this case, the change to the regs is entirely down to the stupidity of our government.

Reply to
Steve Firth

Perhaps you'd like to list at least some of the scare stories he so lovingly reports that actually have become law?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Yes but it's a reputation for being editorially independent, not for being correct. It is no more correct than any other non Tabloid newspaper.

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:::Jerry::::

"IMM" wrote | If you want a down the middle line read the Guardian. | It has a reputation above all others.

Yes, for tyopgrahpicla errosr and having a lagre nubmer of soicla wrokesr amontsg its redaerhsip.

Owain

Reply to
Owain

They don't put a political slant on matters. Reporters love working for them because of non-interference.

Reply to
IMM

< snip tripe by a shit kicker >
Reply to
IMM

Down the middle? How come it was urging its readers to lobby US voters into supporting Kerry against Bush? Is that 'down the middle'?

Reply to
Paper2002AD

Don't make me laugh! The Guardian s the Islimgton chattering classes equivalent of the Mirror. There isn't a more pro New Labour broadsheet on the planet. Did you know that the BBC won't advertise its vacancies anywhere else?

Reply to
Paper2002AD

Did you know you're talking s**te?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Explain please

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Paper2002AD

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