Electric cars a step nearer mainstream?

[PCPaul]

Also, see

A: Because it makes a thread confusing to read. Q: Why is top posting bad?

[Steve Firth]

It makes the baby Jesus cry.

[Duncan Wood]

But that's not a thread, that's a single post.

[Dave Liquorice]

True enough, but I was commenting on the provision of free block heater power. 50 cars at 100W is only 5kW not a great load for a hotel. But if you have 50 cars with 50kWh batteries on a 10hr charge thats 5kW/car (at least) and load of 250kW that power ain't going to be provided for "free".

[geoff]

then multiply it by 10 - most people adopting the usenet convention of proportional posting, with one eejit top posting so that the natural flow of the thread is interrupted

do you really want to be that eejit?

[Andy Hall]

.. and causes the death of small fluffy bunnies.

[Adrian]

The Natural Philosopher gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Sounds awful.

[Adrian]

Linda Fox gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Standard practice in Scandinavia, and easy to retro-fit to any car.

There's a slight difference in current draw...

[Adrian]

"Brian L Johnson" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Many modern diesels do - they're too heat efficient for the normal water- to-air heater matrix to work very well.

[Adrian]

Rupert Moss-Eccardt gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

No, they didn't. Heat exchangers on the exhaust manifolds, with the vaguely-warm air ducted down the inside of the sills.

[Dave Liquorice]

This time slot is needed. Run The Secret Show.

[Brian L Johnson]

The diesel-powered heaters were purely to rapidly heat the interior to a= n =

'acceptable' level for the occupants.

And, having seen the speed with which one of them melted nealy an inch o= f =

ice off our Impala one morning, I can testify to their efectiveness!

[Andy Champ]

The Li-Ion (etc) batteries under consideration for hybrid cars are sealed.

Someone else already did.

Andy

[Richard Torrens]

Top posting also discourages popple from reading the whole email. This can cause huge problems when engaged in a technical discussion with a customer, where many points have been raised.

It also discourages people from snipping previous posts.

Netiquette Try also googling for "top post"

One should also change the subject line when the thread drifts!

[dennis]

Where no company with sense would use the email body to show the actual changes to a technical document anyway.

This is what the change control and markup tools in word (and similar) are for. You change the specification, make sure the changes are marked and then submit the document.

Why do you think M$ word is popular as an interchange medium rather than say RTF or even OO?

Email is a hopeless tool for any sort of technical discussion and should be used for what it is designed.. a delivery system for messages written in a more useful format.

snipping what's that?

[R.C. Payne]

Electric trains/trams/buses (of the non-battery variety) have been doing all of these things for years. It is not difficult, it is not new, it's just not currently applied to private motor cars.

Robin

[R.C. Payne]

The trouble is you can't get that many cars on one train. A four carriage train up to London can seat something like 275 people. If you alow for 2 passengers per car, that's 144 cars you have to carry as well as your four passenger carriages. If you go for something like a 12 car double deck transporter, you've got 4 passenger carriages plus 12 car transporters.

Robin

[R.C. Payne]

Just got back from Switzerland. All of their electricity is either hydro or nuclear. All of their railways are electric. Of the people I was meeting with, the proportion who actually owned a car was very small (perhaps one in four). I was walking round Zurich, and after an hour or so, it occured to me: I had not seen a single diesel bus. Fist fulls of electric trams, a smaller number of electric trolleybuses, but not a single IC engined bus.

Robin

[Doctor Drivel]

The diesel-powered heaters were purely to rapidly heat the interior to an 'acceptable' level for the occupants.

And, having seen the speed with which one of them melted nealy an inch of ice off our Impala one morning, I can testify to their efectiveness!

[Roland Perry]

In message , at 10:29:46 on Mon, 2 Jun 2008, R.C. Payne remarked:

Maybe you were very near the centre? In Geneva they have trams and trolleybuses, but not a very large number of routes for them. All the remaining stuff has to be filled in by conventionally powered buses.