My wife was listening to something on the radio (likely "You and
Yours"(spit)) where they asserted that the owner of a listed building
can be forced to rectify unauthorised works done by a previous owner.
Is this true?
And can you get insurance against the costs involved?
Or shall I just stop looking at listed buildings (again)?
Today is Sweetmorn, the 15th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.
On Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:29:44 UTC+1, Huge wrote:
Maybe. Talk to your local conservation officer. The ones in
St Edmundsbury (West Suffolk) were very reasonable; other people
have horror stories. Note that it helps a lot if you don't go
in with a "this is my house and I can do what I like with it"
approach; if you have already specified (eg) lime mortar and
genuine slate a) they will probably view the rest of the proposal
much more favourably; b) you won't be surprised when they insist
on lime mortar and genuine slate.
Although they do have to notice first. But it is a risk.
The other tricky one is window frames where you are pretty much forced
to replace like with like when they fail. Interior double glazing is
possible but the exterior has to exactly match the originals.
Very smart developers seem to be able to bend the rules a bit when the
choice is between allowing a vintage grade 2* building to fall down or
repurposing it as dwellings. Expect to spend a fair amount of money on
technical advice, consultants and protracted planning consent.
The above refers to my employer - and the buildings in question are not
even listed (but are right next to Somerset House).
My employer is a tad annoyed as they'd been working with the various
bodies quite closely and thought everyone was happy.
Listed - wouldn't touch it with a bargepole...
That's precisely what I did! Or, rather, a share of it. I have a holiday
flat which is part of a Grade II listed building. The total property
comprises 5 flats and a maisonette. Each unit is leasehold (999 year
lease - so it will see me out!) and the "landlord" is a company which is
collectively owned by the leaseholders.
I'm not sure that I would want to own a listed property outright - but
sharing the risk with a few other people doesn't seem quite so bad.
For anyone considering buying a listed building, it's worth looking at
LPOC - Listed Property Owners' Club. They can provide lots of useful
advice - some of which is available for free on their website without
needing to pay the £55 p.a. membership subscription.
On Thursday, 11 June 2015 18:38:24 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
Imho fwiw its worse. You've got to deal with a bunch of other people who, too often, have no clue. I know someone in just this position, and getting the owners to work together is nigh on impossible.
On 11/06/15 19:41, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I've lived in a listed building for 30 years and, being a flat
conversion, run the management company for as long. I've had enough. It
was ok back when there were four owner-occupiers but now I'm the only
On 11/06/2015 19:41, email@example.com wrote:
There's certainly a risk of that - but the six current owners are a
pretty good bunch. I'm currently sharing the maintenance responsibility
with one of the other directors - and the rest have invariably gone
along with what we've recommended.
A wise decision, I think.
My parents bought a dilapidated 400 year old sandstone cottage in the
1980s. Although not listed, the council planning dept insisted that
certain conditions be met during renovations which made the total cost
On feature of the original was curved windows (wooden frames and glass)
to a perfectly circular room. The windows were beyond repair and the
council initially insisted on like-for-like curved replacements but
eventually agreed to high quality hardwood 'faceted' replacements (i.e.
three smaller windows arranged to fit the curve of one large opening.)
Ha - you might have me there...
No - I am at home, but having worked at home all day, I did have my web
bouncing through a SOCKS5 proxy through the College.
Let's see if there's another one...
should be OK (I have turned FoxyProxy off)
True, though they also need to care as well.
Whilst a listing applies to the whole property, they won't care about
everything equally. You need to get an understanding about what it is
that is important about the building. I think there are things that were
done to ours with out LBC, but it's not anything that impacts on the
character of the building and the reasons why it is listed. And anyway
it was so long ago I doubt that anyone would know/care/realise if they
did see it, or be able to prove when the work was done.
Yup, though I wonder what they will say when we have to replace our
kitchen windows. Most of the windows are still the Victorian sashes (and
are of course still fine), but these are single glazed 1970's-ish
replacements which are rotting away (with internal secondary glazing).
They are to the rear and side of the property and I suspect they will be
happy with some sort of modern wooden double glazed ones (can't put the
sashes easily back as the openings were changed in size and made
They were happy for us to replace the conservatory (too rotten and
literally falling down) with a wooden, but otherwise obviously modern
double glazed one as long as we kept the same style (it was more of
vinery really, so the original was more like a slightly fancy lean to
We've not found owning a listed building particularly onerous really.
But it will cost more to do stuff sometimes and you need to go in with
your eyes open.
We've found them pretty helpful really. They had a bad reputation
(Scambs - much more picky than St Edmundsbury we were told) but they've
been OK. Perhaps because we bought it needing significant work, and
started by getting the thatch replaced - which it really needed.
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