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Don't be such an old fart. Stop living in the past; you're circling the drain.

I've been on this earth a good bit longer than you and love the challenges of technology. If I had access back in the day to even half of what we have now, I'd be so rich Buffet, Bezos, Slim, Gates, Zucky, and even President Trump would be envious!

Linux on the desktop/laptop is such a miniscule part of the market it isn't even a rounding error. Apple does not support Linux at all that I'm aware of. That an open source, probably untested bit of kit showed up and then quit working is what you get when you don't know what you are doing.

Yep - my Nokia 2720 circa 2009 is still going strong on the original 7-year-old battery. It's been dropped about 5 or 6 times. < the slippery shiny finish is a bugger for old hands >

My pay-as-you-go is minimum $ 100. per year - I use less. Voicemail & texting. Decent coverage - Canada's Bell network. It won't be replaced with a flip-phone - but I'm not in any hurry to replace it. John T

He who is Lloyd said on Wed, 27 Dec 2017 16:51:43 -0600 (CST):

All the Apple Apologists (who only own walled-garden devices) make excuses for Apple's "courageous action" to not support the real world.

It's the main reason one should *never* update their iOS (other than Apple slows down your phone with subsequent iOS releases that is).

The Apple Apologists have an apology for *evertyhing*, including the fact that Apple lets the customer test their software (remember, Google projects likely finds more security bugs in iOS than does Apple!).

Hence, with every update of iOS, something breaks everywhere for millions of people because it's a known fact that Apple never tests their products with other products in the real world (aka outside the walled garden).

For Apple, the real world is "not supported".

IOW, just some more of your bullshit.

If I were running Apple, I wouldn't support Linux. And for some very simple reasons:

1. Linux is a miniscule presence on desktop/laptop
2. Linux users tend to not buy Apple product, and actually tend to not buy any products

A thousand years ago nobody had games on their phones, for when their horses broke down.

He who is Lloyd said on Wed, 27 Dec 2017 17:48:11 -0600 (CST):

You live wholly ensconced inside the prison of the walled garden. I happen to live in the real world.

I own multiple iOS devices. I own Linux. Windows. Android too.

In fact, millions of Linux users were adversely affected when Apple broke connectivity when those Apple customer's iOS devices were updated from iOS

*Proof that Apple never tests their products in the real world.*

I own all of those too. Different approaches to solving the same tasks, nothing more or less. I prefer Apple gear, but I also own a Pixelbook, Surface, Nexus 5X, iPhone 7 and a slew of tablets of various flavors. You ain't nothing special, and based solely on your trolling, you ain't nothing at all.

If any Linux users were affected because a driver that was written by someone that obviously didn't have the proper knowledge or skills to do so, then shame on them for using crapware.

You do know that OS X is Unix based and if you're a real glutton you can cross compile Linux programs on OS X and vice versa? And of course you know iOS is a derivative of OS X. Having programmed on Unix, AIX, and Linux boxes I might feel right at home on an Apple box. At least they have gotten past the Apple II days when the keyboard was missing characters that are part of the C language.

Truth. Of course you might have a deck of cards and could play solitaire without a $600 accessory.

most linux apps have already been ported to mac os x.

on the other hand, mac os x apps *cannot* be ported to linux.

probably, but there's *far* more to mac os x than the unix layer.

such as which ones?

He who is Lloyd said on Wed, 27 Dec 2017 20:42:04 -0600 (CST):

You have absolutely no idea of what happened with the iOS release that brazenly broke all Linux connectivity because your characterization doesn't fit the facts.

I can remember when the only games you could play on a phone was crank calling people. Now that has become a business.

nor do you, and it didn't.

~ iirc. I'm not sure about ^.

Back in the Apple II day you did a lot more bit twiddling. I think there were either software or hardware workarounds but I remember a friend complaining about it as well as the gymnastics to get lowercase.

I went the CP/M route with the BDS C subset compiler. It was a different world and I never had an Apple II or worked with the 6502. I was in the Intel/Zilog camp. I really liked the 68000 when it came along rather than Intel's kludge but nobody was paying me to write for Apple or 68000.

Every have a party line? You could catch some steamy stuff on those. Not that I'd ever eavesdrop...

Yes. Velcro shoes !

Greg

did you even look at the photo?

~ is shift `, in the lower left corner, 2nd key in ^ is shift 6, top row

the original apple ii didn't have lower case, nor did a lot of computers in 1977.

that was added shortly after and hasn't been an issue for more than 35 years.

that's a long time to hold a grudge.

clearly.

too bad. it was far, far more lucrative, and yes, the 68k architecture was great.

Did you even look at the photo? The part that says Apple IIe?

"One of the most notable improvements of the Apple IIe is the addition of a full ASCII character set and keyboard. The most important addition is the ability to input and display lower-case letters."

Did I say anything about the IIe that came out 6 years after the II?

Programming for Apple was definitely not more lucrative for me. The only company that I ever worked for that had Apple products used the first generation Mac since it met the TEMPEST requirements. Even there I did not personally use one.

I will agree on the 68K architecture and in fact I had a 68K development board. However at the time I was doing embedded work and Motorala was a no-sale. Their microcontrollers were fine but Motorala had a bad reputation. you would design one of their parts in and when it came time to go into production Motorala didn't have the parts. Their number one priority was automotive. That rep also hurt the 68K.