Is there a single useful Apple iOS camera capability that isn't already on Android?
The question was posed today on the iOS newsgroup, where nobody on that newsgroup knows cameras well enough to find a *single* useful Apple iOS phone camera functionality that isn't already on Android.
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Even Savageduck, an avowed digital expert, hasn't named a single one.
It's a valid question, especially since most iOS users seem to blindly assume there must be something, anything, that the Apple iOS phone cameras can do that Android phone cameras don't already do.
...and if you think I am going to be baited into playing your game just because you have added rec.photo.digital to the NG distribution you are mistaken. I have told you that I am done with you.
I don't think that folk get themselves an iPhone for the sake of photography. DxOmark reviews do not indicate that iPhones would be more then on par at best:
Scores on the right.
If you want to improve on your iPhones pictures then I would ponder the DxO One addon that makes your iPhone an one inch camera:
I have a Xperia M4 and spend my money on real gear.
All that matters is that you are the most well known expert in digital photography on the iOS newsgroups, where your own verifiable words today are in message ID
"In terms of camera function on iOS or Android devices of similar spec there little to no difference, particularly with current phones."
To that end, here is a scientific assessment of the "image & video quality" pf Apple iOS and Android devices based on a reference kindly supplied today by user "android" in this thread:
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"DxO has extensively analyzed the image and video quality of over 9,000 cameras, lenses and mobile phones. These analyses are used by top camera manufacturers, media and help power DxO software. DxOMark provides free public access to these results to help guide your camera and lens decisions."
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Why are you concerned with what is or isn't between the two? Why does it matter what anyone thinks? If you don't like iPhone or Apple products, don't buy it. It's that simple. Instead, whiners such as yourself go to extremes with attempts to prove a point usually caused by your own inferior and invidious issues. Get over it and stop crossposting because they no longer give you attention.
The Apple iOS users always *claim* that their camera can do things that Android cameras can't, yet nobody can get an answer out of them as to what on earth that could possibly be.
But, they're positive that their cameras are better than Android cameras. In fact, they're positive that their software can "do stuff" that Android can't do.
Yet, they can't think of a single thing that they can do that Android doesn't do, where it's clear that there are tons of things that Android does that iOS can't hope to do.
SO the question is what on earth are they thinking that iOS cameras can do that Android cameras don't already do. You can't get the answer out of them because it's their religion so they just believe it.
But not everyone is a believer in everything the Apple Marketing God tells them to believe.
I am interested in psychology where the psychology of a guy who does his own home repair (eg if he runs his own smoke test to fix lean condition codes, he's a totally different type of person who sends the car to the stealer for the same task) or a guy who is concerned with chromatic aberration is a totally different kind of person than someone who takes all their photos with a mobile device.
It turns out that the person who loves iOS, psychologically, is a cripple in many ways, just like the operating system is, in that they seem to want to take *all* their directives from the Apple Mother Ship, who is, by the way, perfectly happy to oblige them (by feeding them exactly what they want to hear).
Hence, the Apple iOS device users actually think their "cameras" take decent pictures (because that's what the Mother Ship told communicated to the Apple Marketing GPU embedded in their frontal cortex).
What's worse, if you point out the truth to them, they take it as an affront to their religion, in that their religion knows no facts whatsoever
- and - in fact - they actually truly believe that there is some functionality (any functionality) on iOS that is not already on Android.
That's just not true.
There is absolutely no fumnctionality whatsoever (camera or otherwise) that is on Apple iOS products that isn't already on Android - and - since Android is a superset - there is tons of functionality on Android that is not allowed by Apple for iOS users.
Things like the ability to organize your desktop any way you want which are so trivial on Android that it's utterly shocking that the simplest of organizational tasks are impossible on iOS.
For example, this is a screenshot of my one desktop screen, which is impossible to even get close to on all my iOS devices.
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It's so trivial to set up the phone the way I like on Android that when I try to organize iOS, it's amazing how crippled the entire platform is.
It's a verifiable fact that the Apple iOS user is crippled (by Apple) in what they can do (and their psychology is that they feel "safe" by being crippled in what they can do), and yet, the hardware is "about the same" as on Android (so it's not the hardware that is crippling what the iOS apps can do). How are they going to load any app launcher? Where is the app drawer functionality on iOS? Why can't iOS users put app icons in different folders? Why can't they simply delete any app icon they want to? Why can't they do something as simple as name an icon to what they want? Where's the youtube without ads functionality on iOS? What about bit torrenting on iOS? Heck, why can't iOS even tell the user the unique cell tower ID anymore? Why can't iOS give a graph of the wifi signal strength over time? Where's the FM radio on Apple devices if the user wants one? What about expandable storage if the user wants it? What about a user-replaceable battery upgrade if the user wants it (this list of what Androidd does that Apple iOS can't goes on and on).
Meanwhile, the Android user, psychologically, is a completely different user who, mostly, just buys on price performance is is willing to understand and listen to facts about the platform.
So, as both an Android and iOS user, all I'm trying to find out is what (if anything) can iOS do that Android doesn't already do, where this question is specifically related to cameras.
I'm not afraid of the truth - but so far - the truth seems to be there is absolutely nothing. And yet, their religion is such that they swear there must be something (anything!) that Apple iOS devices can do that the Android devices don't, by way of meaningful functionality.
Fine. I'm happy for them (and for me). And yet, they still can't name a single bit of useful functionality.
It's probably nothing fancy other than habit. The individual using it can do things easily with his iOS that would be tougher on Android. What happens when you hop into an unfamiliar vehicle?
Unlike you, the Apple-hating zealot troll, people in the Apple news groups aren't obsessed with whether Apple's stuff is better. A quick scan of past threads shows the only threads where pissing matches are happening are threads created by *you*. The only reason this topic comes up at all in the Apple news groups is because *you* are here bringing it up. You apparently have no life, and get your sick kicks disrupting otherwise peaceful news groups in an all-out effort to aggravate people you don't even know in news groups for products you admittedly disdain. You're a pathetic old man.
[remainder of your useless trollish ramblings rightfully ignored]
What can Android do that my iPad can't? And since I also have a real camera, a Nikon, that is pretty shockproof, waterproof, and can do things neither iPad or some Android thing can do, what does it matter?
No, you're interested in proving them wrong and that ridiculous run-on tripe of a reply proves it. You are incapable of letting it go for those to believe as they want. Millions of people believe in ghosts, aliens, Yeti/Bigfoot, Zombies, etc, will you post lengthy rants to them also? Their belief doesn't harm you or others unless you have inferior egos which you are clearly harboring.
Obviously someone got under your skin and you are wearing your emotions on your sleeve. Get over it already.
It doesn't. It only matters to the owner/user if the features of a product works for the intent for which they purchased. Of course, it also matters to the insecure whiners who can't ignore when someone thinks they have a great product. It's similar to motorcycle riders who hate HD owners because HD owners still think it's all American and the ultimate machine. Big deal! Friendly banter is one thing, over zealous attempts to prove otherwise is childishly inferior and asinine.
As a rider myself, I can categorically say that it's my opinion that no HD owner actually thinks his bike is "better" functionally than other bikes.
It's completely different. It's American iron. It's iconic. It's historic (Milwaukee even trademarked the *sound* they emit, for heaven's sake, so that it wouldn't be copied by the rice burners).
But nobody riding a Harley thinks the bike stands a snowball's chance in Hell outperforming even a rice burner of similar size, let alone a beemer.
The Hog owner *knows* his machine's limitations, unlike the iPhone/iPad owner.
"ETC" means "many more". Conspiracy theorists are everywhere. If they don't want to heed the facts the first time....let it go! Tunnel vision is incurable.
Check your facts. They tried for 6 years and withdrew the application in
2000 claiming it had won in the court of public opinion. They also tried to trademark the term "Hog" and failed.
You need to get out more and check those facts as well instead of whining in forums with attempted chest thumping of issues your insecure ego can't handle.
Yet many inferior souls don't know their limitations of whining levels.
I only speak facts. But I don't mince words. Meanie is completely wrong.
He doesn't appear to know what he's talking about. He's just guessing. Or, he's parrotting what Apple told him to say.
You can tell he has no idea what he's talking about because not only is he dead wrong, but he provided you with zero facts that support his opinion that they have the same app functionality.
When it's easily provable otherwise.
The Android device has so much more app functionality than an iPad or iPhone that it's not even close. It's a superset. But it depends on what you actually *do* with the device.
BTW, it's not the Apple hardware that makes Apple mobile devices inferior in functionality to Android app functionality because Apple hardware is generally pretty good.
It's Apple who cripples what the apps can do functionally.
Even jailbroken, Apple iOS devices are less functional than similarly rooted Android devices, but that's more due to the market catering to rooted devices than to the hardware since theorectially, once you remove Apple's shackles, the hardware is about the same.
Assuming non jailbroken non rooted devices, there's no question that Android device functionality is a superset of iOS functionality.
But everything depends on what *you* care about. If all you do is web browse, watch videos, and snap photos, the fact that iOS app functionality is cripped won't even be noticeable to you.
But if you want to organize your desktop the way you want, and as I have my Android device organized, you'll find *that* completely impossible on iOS: An organizational task as trivially simple as putting an icon wherever you want it on your desktop, on any grid, of any size, in any location, is just impossible on the primitive iOS app launcher.
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On the primitive iOS launcher, you can't do the simplest organizational tasks such as renaming icons; you can't delete any one you one from your desktop (on iOS you can only delete "some"); you can't put them in duplicate locations; you can't have them organized in a fully functional app-drawer app (all you can do is make dumb folders named "app drawer", as if Apple expects every user to come up with their own solution.
The primitive look and feel of iOS extends far (much further) than just the primitive app launcher in that on iOS you can't even select a *different* app launcher (which is trivial to do on Android) which has other features.
The iOS apps themselves are crippled.
For example, on Android it's trivial to watch youtube videos without ever seeing any ads, and to download either the audio or the video of those youtube videos from that same app. On iOS you will never be ad free like you are on Android and you have to resort to third party web sites or some other mechanism just to download the video or audio.
On iOS, you can't bit torrent. Apple won't let you. On Android you can.
On iOS, you can't even get a graphical display of your wifi output over time for heaven's sake. Something as simple as indicating the cellular tower strength and unique cell id is impossible on iOS, for example.
On iOS, you can't even output your list of installed apps to an editable text files, for heaven's sake, without having to install iTunes on a separate computer just to do something as simple as that.
You can't save your APK (app installer zip files) after the fact and then reinstall them on any similar iOS device, which is trivial to do on Android.
If you want Wifi or cellular connection logging, it's trivial on Android, and impossible on iOS. Same with automatic call answering and automatic call recording (although nospam just recently said it was finally on iOS but he lies so often that we'd have to doublecheck everything he says - but I'm willing to check that for you if you're interested).
You can't even back up the *entire* device (the iOS users "say" they can but they have a different (ka Apple Marketing) definition of "entire" than the rest of the world does). Hence backtracking in versions is vastly more problematic on iOS than on Android.
Heck, you can't even bluetooth a file from an iOS device to *any* computer not on a local network (aka an "ad hoc network" or "ad hoc file transfer services", because Apple feels you don't need to ever do that (except when you do - the Apple users just give up and you get your files across).
You can't set the screen orientation by app on iOS, and you can't have it different for the desktop versus for the apps either.
And we're not even talking about the crippling hardware limitations of all Apple mobile devices such as the batteries, external storage, inductive coupling, native dual sims, FM radios, etc. (which some Android devices also lack).
And that's just some stuff I know about offhand, where every one of those issues above has its own thread on how to do it in the Apple newsgroups, where the answer is that not a single iOS user can do it.
They *say* they do it - but not one of them actually can because all they do is lie about things which are factually provable.
Given that's the list I thought of, offhand, for you, you can imagine how many *other* things Android does that iOS can't do. Remember, we've *asked* many times if there is any app functionality that iOS can do that Android doesn't already do, and *nobody* can come up with anything more than Apple trademarks for things that already exist on Android (e.g., payment methods, file transfer methods, remote dialing methods, etc.).
Bear in mind that Meanie responded to you without providing any facts whereas I provide verifiable fact. Keep that in mind.
Having said that I provide verifiable facts, it may be that all you do is browse the web and listen to music on your iPad, in which case the two platforms are functionally similar.
It's only when you try to do stuff not scripted by the Apple Marketing Machine that you find out that it's impossible to do *lots* of stuff on the primitive closed-system iOS interface, which is trivial to do on the more modern more open Android interface.
I hope you appreciate the detail because most people won't risk stating facts on a Usenet thread but I do and while the iOS users will scream and cry that my facts are wrong - you'll notice that they will NOT provide the facts to support their opinion.
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