WOT: Gun Buy Outs

May 11, 2009 124 Replies

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As a for instance, if I'm standing at one end of my living room, and some clown with a knife is bleeding on the floor inside my kicked open door, we can probably let the cops guess.

Why would you? Think about it? Most decent quality legal guns are worth well over 100 bucks, as a starter.

I've got an old college friend who now lives in the desert near Sonoita. He's been there for more than 35 years now, maybe 40, living as he wishes and carrying a pistol just about everywhere. He's something of a wild assed liberal, too.

Meant to add to my comment on my Sonoita pal that Virginia is an open carry state, with concealed carry permits readily available after the gun owner takes what I think is a five day course.

That said, I've got to say I only know a couple of people who carry around here, and it's a 50-50 split between one guy who fears everything, and the other who is a strutting horse's ass.

================================== You need to check state game laws before making statements covering the entire eastern area. In Virginia, we have a breakdown in hunting seasons that goes something like this: muzzleloaders (they are still rifles, though); archery; rifle. There is no specific shotgun season, nor any need for one, though I think pumps with buckshot or slugs may be used. Turkeys are considered shotgun game. ================================== Nowhere did you post an AK47 season which was my point. ==================================== I've got a hunting friend out in Nevada, who is also something of a gun nut. I can't recall him ever even owning a "saddle gun" .30-.30. ================================= Definitely light weight for long range work

=================================== Basically, it's difficult to jam people into categories when it comes to owning guns and using them, whether you're writing of hunting in general or in specific areas, or even about political party affiliations. =================================== No attempt to generalize but rather to point out that an AK47 is not a sport hunting weapon, but rather specifically designed to kill people.

Lew

Sounds like a tossup on which one is more dangerous.

Or, maybe just something to show off. Not much different essentially than some of the flakes who driver their fully decked out Hummers downtown in rush hour traffic everyday.

The AK-47 and it's replacement the AK-74 are classified as Assault Rifles and are automatic loaders with selectable full or semi automatic fire. They are also extremely inaccurate weapons.

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If hunting with an AK47 wasyour point, you shouldn't have categorized eastern states as only being able to use pump shotguns with a slug load. Probably a .30-.30 is more popular, because most hunting here is done in wooded areas.

Speaking of using a fully automatic weapon for hunting is asinine, anyway. You can't use an M16, nor can you use a Thompson, and I'd bet even the Barret .50 is not legal for game, nor is a BAR, my personal favorite for layiing down fire (which tends to show my age). That really comes under the heading of SFW.

Usually these events are "no questions asked."

Those who run these programs won't tell you, but I often wonder when the Buffalo cops run the serial numbers the next day how many guns they find that were last seen on the hip of an Arizona State Trooper found shot to death on the side of the road.

Further, I have never heard of a stolen weapon being turned in during one of these "buy back" schemes that was returned to its rightful owner.

You may actually know a lot more people who carry, but don't advertise the fact. I carried concealed for almost 10 years when I was working in a place with a less than salubrious environment. In all that time neither my boss nor my co-workers knew I was carrying. It really would have been something only my wife and myself would have known if it weren't for my getting a speeding ticket while carrying (Washington state law at the time required you to disclose), after which a number LEOs know as well, as did some of their friends and family.

Still, the point is that many people carry concealed and consider silence about it to be part of the concealment.

Tim Douglass

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"Charlie Self" wrote: ================================== If hunting with an AK47 wasyour point, you shouldn't have categorized eastern states as only being able to use pump shotguns with a slug load. Probably a .30-.30 is more popular, because most hunting here is done in wooded areas. ======================================

I didn't.

Since a shotgun with a slug load is a shorter range weapon than a rifle, and eastern states tend to have higher population densities than western states, chances are pretty good more shotguns loaded with slugs are used in eastern states.

Nothing more, nothing less.

It's been years, but from memory, think Ohio only allows shot gun slugs for deer, and maybe even PA.

Both being states east of the Mississippi and both with relatively high population densities.

Lew

Lew

Why would you? Think about it? Most decent quality legal guns are worth well over 100 bucks, as a starter.

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There's a lot of junk that isn't.

Supposedly the guns are destroyed, right?

I don't know about running serial numbers, but the big brag here was destroying the "guns," all one of them.

I remember a gun buyback here in Baltimore some years ago, many/most of the weapons turned in were old BB guns, broken/rusted out shotguns, etc. and in at least one reported case, a toy.

Here in L/A, all guns are checked via serial # to verify they are not stolen, on a wanted list, etc, IOW "clean", before they are melted down and turned into rebar.

Lew

When the program first started in Buffalo I contacted a friend of mine who was the police officer in charge of the firing range for the Buffalo Police. I asked about the possibility of purchasing one or more of the turned in firearms. He told me they were all to be destroyed with out exception. He said that the paper trail was so tight there wasn't even a way that he could get one.

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