WOT: Gun Buy Outs

A real wood worker would be turning out high volume, low quality zip guns by the bucketful. Was this also a "no questions asked" type of left wing mania?

Probably being warehoused by a domain broker for $100K.

nb

Well, they did it in New York City with the Sullivan Law.

But your statement "other than assault rifles..." is way too similar to the mayor of D.C. bragging "If you don't count the homicides, D.C. is a great place to live."

"Why do you carry a .45?" "Because they don't make a .46,"

Public officials don't have a different need. They may be at higher risk but they're not any different than you or I.

What do you call the effort in San Francisco that the mayor tried to push through a couple of years back? What about DC? Chicago? NYC? The Brady Bunch in general? If you can't see it you've got your head in the sand.

Larry

but they feel that they do and are, i'd wager.

Lew-

I think that you elevate the typical LEO's gun skills over that of "amateur gun owners" (what ever that classification might mean)

First of all most deadly handgun incidents occur at very close range...... ranges at which there is not much more needed than point and shoot.

When I was a kid most cops carried revolvers...now its mostly high cap semi's.

Funny thing is...the number of rounds expended by LEO's in a "gun fight" have greatly increased but the number of "hits' has not had a commensurate increase.

since you hale from LA.....you must remember the (a few years ago?) incident where group of LA County Deputy Sheriffs opened fire on a suspect in a residential neighborhood in a suburban. Something like a 100 rounds fired....everything but the suspect was hit.

the fact is ...most LEO's are not great shots :(

the good news is....they don't need to be :)

cheers Bob

Not all eastern states have a high population density. Pennsylvania has vast areas of extremely low population. It also has several large areas where deer hunting is permitted. My grandfather used to hunt every year and got his bag each time. He used a pump action rifle that used the Remington 35 caliber cartridge. Shot guns were used for birds only.

A number of years ago in Chicago 8 (count em 8) of Chicago's finest caught an offender in the stair well of one of the apartment buildings in town. The offender made appropriate moves to bring down the wrath of the cops upon him, over 60 rounds were fired by the cops. Not a one hit the offender. The chief was so enraged over this display of firearms proficiency that he suspended every one of the detectives and ordered them to qualify (not re qualify but qualify) on the gun range before they could go back to work and resume being paid. The offender went to jail.

I was a corrections officer for about 3 1/2 years a while ago. During the firearms training we received I was one of the best shots there. The other's were ex military. During shotgun training the instructor was moving to a new firing station with one of the female trainees. The trainee had the shotgun at port arms with the end of the barrel pointed right at the instructor's head. The weapon was loaded and I think ready to fire but I am not sure. By the way it had been over 20 years since I had last fired a rifle and I was still one of the best in my class.

Both the "instructor" and the trainee should have gotten a thorough reaming from the range safety officer.

Admittedly I have first hand experience only with the USMC, but I can't feature a 'grunt' making that kind of mistake. During my service, the philosophy was that every Marine was a rifleman first, and only after that was his duties defined by MOS.

The two statements quoted lead me to believe that some percentage of the members of the other armed forces may have only a nodding acquaintance with personal weapons.

Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA

An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein

Shoot, that's nothing! Any TWO Portland or Beaverton Oregon cops can and do get off 40 rounds all on their lonesome with similar results. In fact, two Portland cops fired that many at one perp and he got caught when he went to an ER later for treatment of a bullet Fragment in his right heel. To be fair, the guy was running and it was at night - on a well lit street.

The politicians describe Pennsylvania as "Philidelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Alabama in between."

Unfortunatly the instructor was the range officer.

That about sums it up....

As I remember, Fox Chapel along with Alcoma were a couple of pretty decent golf courses.

Certainly no Oakmont, but definitely worth the drive from Cleveland a couple of times each summer just to play there.

Lew

At the USAF base in England where I was stationed for three years, the sargeant in charge of the Air Police managed to blow off the end of a finger while trying to clear a jam for one of his troops. They were at our indoor range re-qualifying with the .45. Sarge had a finger over the end of the barrel as he jiggled the slide and squeezed the trigger. Wound was nicely cauterized. They shipped him out Real Quick Like, as he was the laughing stock of the base.

But then, almost Anywhere is worth the drive from Cleveland ...