Sawstop's suit against Ryobi is upheld

[krw]

First they came for the Jews...

[Steve]

Not so fast, Bunky...

[krw]

"He pays the stupid tax". No, we all pay his "stupid tax" whenever someone wins such a lawsuit.

Sure (how does SS do DADOs?), but the suit *was* about removed guards (fence?). Damned fools will still hurt themselves.

[Steve]

OR, turn off the sensing circuit.

[krw]

The fact is that they have no way of knowing. Any replacement program is guesswork, at best.

Nonsense. There is good reason I did *NOT* buy a SawStop.

[Bill]

Well, as long as you said that much, lets here it! : ) I'm planning ot purchase in the spring, or sooner if I run accross something. I have been leaning toward the Unisaur.

[krw]

I already said. It was more than twice the price of the Unisaur. It is *not* worth it.

An x5 is a good choice. The new style is stupid expensive.

[Bill]

I was under the impression the "x5" was more of a marketing gimmick. Do you have a link to what you are referring to? My brief research suggests that the X5 Unisaw was a circa 2006, or so, machine.

Thanks, Bill

[Larry Jaques]

I just can't support anyone doing underhanded business any more. I stopped with Sears 30 years ago and won't start with Gass today.

I was there, doing auto A/C when the law took effect. Uckinfay Eeniesgray. From there, they went on to spotted owls, the elusive Devil's Hole Pupfish, silicone implant terrors, and AGWK.

God help us!

I understand that it pales, too. :^)

-- Never trouble another for what you can do for yourself. -- Thomas Jefferson

[Max]

When all is said and done there are only two things that concern me;

1. Is the manufacturer going to fix my saw (and replace the blade) if the damn thing malfunctions (ruins my blade and stops my work for the day)

1. How much is it going to add to the cost of the saw I buy.

Max

[RicodJour]

te:

There's a web site that answers questions about the SawStop. It's

You won't be giving up your soul if you visit the web site and get such information yourself. Promise.

R

[Josepi]

The twelve jurors, that were present during the testimonies of the ``real`` story, were all complete idiots or all paid by the SawStop people to support them. I am sure the people here are all better informed what actually happened than any stupid jurors could possibly be.

American justice is just a crock anyway. Why bother.

The ridiculously frivolous suit of an ignorant laborer injured because of stupidity has been upheld at the Appellate Court:

[Hoosierpopi]

"Osorio largely relied on the testimony of his witness, Dr. Stephen Gass, inventor of "SawStop,"

Neat trick. You invent something, can't sell it to the industry, so you get people to sue in hopes of forcing industry to adopt your product/design. Then again, it just may have been a slick attorney that turned Gass onto this idea. We may start seeing Ambulance Chasers advertising on This Old House!

Ah, America . . .

[Hoosierpopi]

Hard for that to happen as the issue was not raised in the appeal. The Court cannot rule on aspects of the rial not raisd in the appeals themselves. (I think, not a lawyer spokesperson)

[Hoosierpopi]

Good catch!

[Hoosierpopi]

"manufacturers that have decided that more safety is too high a price to pay."

No, it's us. We have decided so with purchase after purchase of low- cost saws from HFT, etc. When better quality, safer alternatives were available for twice the price and maybe more.

It is the proverbial Free Market - or is it the fickle fingers of fate?

[Lew Hodgett]

----------------------------- "Bill" writes:

---------------------------------- Stupid writes:

-------------------------------- Hey Stupid, what's the cost of an E/R visit for a table saw cut injury?

What's the cost of the follow-up medical care including the physical therapy?

My guess is $5,000 doesn't begin to cover the costs.

Depending on your medical coverage, the co-pay on $5K could cover the cost of several SawStops.

Lew

[J. Clarke]

of your argument.

[Dave]

I agree with your outlook and also feel that safety is paramount within reason. The Sawstop cabinet saw table top is too high for me to operate comfortably so unfortunately it's not a saw I'd consider. I inquired as to the possibility of lowering one of their saws and was told that the internal mechanism didn't allow enough room for lowering. So, when I'm again ready to buy, it will be one of General's 'Access' tablesaws which is lowered for people who have to sit, like to sit or happen to be of shorter stature.

[Dave]

Par for the course, you know shit. That fact is that it's a lawyers job to take an existing lawsuit and fashion an argument that logically appears to fit that case. Along with a measure of induced sympathy, stupid or not, jurors often find for a plaintiff.

The American justice system makes it too easy to sue someone. That has advantages and disadvantages. Jurors are required to rule on the case at hand and are not legally responsible if a particular decision has wide ranging repercussions ~ which will or is about to happen with SawStop and will also be exacerbated by the insurance industry in an effort to protect themselves.