Yeah, and the lying sack o' shite SOB was disbarred shortly
thereafter, despite not being impeached.
Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
A suit, with no basis whatsoever, was filed against this little company
on which I am a board member. The company was incorporated as a holding
company setup to pay oil and gas royalties, from their pooled land, to
the stockholders who bought shares in the company in the early 1940's
for retirement purposes.
The service of the original notice of this suit was blatantly falsified;
the little company's bank account was seized by a default judgement
because notice was never served and no one in the company, run by the
old folks themselves, were even aware of the suit.
As a result, the company was forced to hire the other lawyer in the
county to defend itself against said suit, try to get their wrongly
seized money back, and to defend against the suit after it was proved
the original service had been falsified.
The entire action was found so egregious by a jury, that the judge,
suspected to be part of the scheme, had no choice but to issue a
judgement against the plaintiff and his attorney, All three of the
lawyers involved (both parties attorneys, and the judge) were high
school good ole boys from the same town.
No one went to jail. The plaintiff's lawyer bought an airplane very
shortly afterward (obviously from the proceeds of his "legal" gain
(after paying the judgement against him, and after splitting with his
cohorts) and killed himself in one of his first flights ... good
riddance, a little justice from above.
For the record, for a number of years I personally supervised eleven
attorneys, all of who worked _directly_ for me. There is _nothing_ I do
not understand about the breed, their training, their blurring of the
distinctions aforementioned, and their ability to make a mockery of the
judicial system, as above, as well as the laws, supposedly written "for
the common good" by themselves in the legislative branches of our
I have yet to meet a lawyer who would not take advantage a "legality"
because it was the wrong, immoral or unethical thing to do ... once
again, they are trained that way, making the practitioners of this sly
art engender some of the most despicable practices of evil in human
nature that have ever existed.
Their trite, condescending comeback is that you hate them until you need
one ... I argue that if there were far fewer your need would be a damned
sight less; and if the laws they promulgate were written in a moral,
ethical manner in the first place, it is arguable that any need would be
a rare occurrence.
Perhaps the lawyers that go in for political office are not typical of
lawyers in general. Perhaps it was that whatever you were doing
attracts a certain type of lawyer.
Yet they're out there. You just haven't had a need for them and/or
you might have political differences with their objectives.
Once again the law is being used, for purposes of greed, to prevent a useful
product from practical application. I don't know about the rest of you, but
adding such a huge required expense to an average table saw, makes it fall
into the category of unaffordable for me! Great idea. Love the concept. Have
cut both thumbs numerous times, and definitely appreciate the value of such
a device. Unfortunately, $3,500 puts it nicely out of my price range. It is
also unfortunate that it will most likely become "required equipment"
because of the frivolous lawsuits by the less than adequately equipped end
users, only by virtue of the fact that they can muster enough reserve
intellect to dial a phone, and contact a greedy and unscrupulous lawyer. As
I recall, most of my generation was given "Wood shop" in school. Our
teachers NEVER let the dumb or immature students anywhere near the "REAL"
machines. They somehow knew that these individuals needed to be protected
from their own stupidity, rather than the dangers of the machines. I think
they used to call it "Common Sense!"
As I already stated, " Some of us are just too prone to accidents". I admit
I fall within this category! It only took the slightest lack of attention,
for the briefest of moments to incur my two past injuries. But I am just
bright enough to know how dumb I can be. I went out and bought a new and
improved pushing device the first time I got cut. The second time I got cut,
I actually started to use it. If this type of device was made affordably,
I'd likely go for a new machine that was equipped with it. JUST DON'T FORCE
IT DOWN MY THROAT!
I still believe that, as a real American, I have certain rights. I have the
right to be ignorant and stupid! I have the right to make poor choices! I
have the right to enjoy the thrill of impending danger, and the joy of
escaping fate on a regular basis. I know this all sounds positively insane,
but it is TRUE! No matter how many safety devices get invented, or how much
money gets made by manufacturing them, we Americans will find a way to
circumvent the intended resulting safety level that such devices imbue. Just
look at the record.
The original saws consisted of a mandrel and flange that supported a blade,
and the whole thing was marginally attached to some type of makeshift
support frame. Then the saw was improved with an enclosure and table to
prevent the operator from getting clothing and limbs entangled with the
blade and belts. That's right . . . the BELT used to cause as many injuries
as the blade at one time. A good strong steam engine driving a leather belt
could snatch you right into the darn thing in an instant! Next came a rip
fence to keep the wood being fed into the blade on a true path, preventing
MOST incidence of kickback. Still happens on occasion because some of us
don't know to check the moisture content or the grain of the wood we work
with. Add a trunion to the system, and we lost a lot of the injuries caused
by overextension of the blade above the table. Still managing to mame
ourselves with these tools, somebody came up with the blade guard systems we
all know and love. I don't know of anyone who uses a table saw that wasted
any time in eliminating that one. Even the ones made with lexan, and
including anti kickback devices never proved to prevent the great American
will for freedom to prevent most of us from taking them off, and throwing
them in a drawer someplace. We do reserve the right to be stupid! As stated
earlier, this new device is no exception to this fact. Improper use of
inadequately dried lumber negates the intended application of this new
device. So why should we all be forced to pay for it.
Somehow, the lawyers have saturated our society with the belief that we can
litigate and legislate our way to some type of perfect and safe existence.
It is simply not so. We are armed with certain rights that prevent this. We
are an ingenious people, who will find a way to harm ourselves regardless of
what legislators and lawyers attempt to do in order to protect us from
ourselves. Just like the "Shop Teachers" of old, there is always going to be
the one fool who finds his way into the path of danger and destruction. So
It all generates money, plain and simple. Lawyers get lots of it!
Legislators have a reason to exist! A few Americans will have a job, for a
little while, till a Chinese company takes over production (they will have
to in order for ANY table saw to remain affordable) , and an Indian company
takes over the support services. And somewhere along the line, a few of US
may even be prevented from harming ourselves. That is, till we find a way to
bypass the darn thing, and save the expense of ruined blades and expensive
AT SOME POINT, WE AMERICANS MUST BEGIN TO EXERCISE COMMON SENSE! Great job
coming up with this invention, but get realistic about your greed, and try
to exercise a bit of compassion for those of us who would like to be able to
afford such a device. Try to behave like we actually do care about our
fellow man, and his welfare, and the profits will come. The inventor of the
flush toilet didn't try to make a huge amount on every single toilet, but
I'm fairly certain that American Standard, and the other manufacturers are
still doing quite well. Edison lost out on the whole DC current thing, but
his light bulb did ok for a long time.
What I'm saying is simply this . . . If you have a quality invention, it
WILL make you a LOT of money. That is the nature of capitalism. But if you
make a quality device, that is of benefit to the very safety and welfare of
others, you have a moral obligation to offer it at a REASONABLE price. I
know the law says otherwise, but lets face it, the laws are written by
unscrupulous people who have no conscience or other goals except their own
wealth and prosperity. Are you, as an inventor, willing to lend yourself to
such an ideology? Or are you going to follow your conscience, and do the
right thing with the God given blessings that helped you to invent such a
device. I can't help but think that such inspiration comes to a person from
something higher, and for a noble reason beyond our base frailties of greed
and malice. No doubt, it has been a frustrating path dealing with the
corporate giants that have fought you along the way, but why take a stance
that prevents the average guy from realizing the added safety such a tool
could provide? We didn't do any of that to you, and some of us at least
would like to see this device in practical use.
I am, admittedly, one of the dummies who would find a way to bypass such a
device. But I would like to see it as an OPTION for my next saw. Who knows,
I could develop wisdom at some point? It took two cut thumbs to get me wise
enough to use a proper push tool. That guy got his $69.00 from me, but it
was in my time, and at My choice. A good invention, is a good invention.
Market the thing fairly, and people will find their own way to it. That is
the American way. We just don't like having things forced on us. I for one
would go to any length to avoid paying a single dime for one of these
devices if the legislators try to force it on me. Heck, I just gave up on my
old pre catalytic converter vehicle. Darn things just add more expense to an
already expensive item! :)
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:30:09 GMT, email@example.com wrote:
Once it does, the price will drop as competition and volume bring the
prices down. Probably new technology too. It is the end of the cheap
$99 saw though.
Ever go to one of the car cruises like we have every summer weekend?
Those pre-cat cars may be a thing of beauty, but they sure do stink. I
cannot imagine how we survived the 50's and 60's breathing all that
I believe it was in the 70's the Federal Government mandated the 55mph
speed limit, and the state's had to use their own police to enforce the
law. Yes, the same Federal Government that forbids states to enforce
their immigration laws.
Got Change: big government =====> BIG GOVERNMENT!
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:30:09 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Isn't that redundant?
Herbert Spencer very wisely stated "The ultimate result of shielding
men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools."
Shakespeare was right.
The answer is simple: GREED. Rather than be remembered as somewhat of
an altruist who put his wonderful (albeit flawed) invention onto every
brand of saw (and make millions from reasonable licensing and per unit
fees for the next couple decades), he chose the greedy way, wanting a
couple hundred dollars PER SAW (plus mfgr costs for the device) from
each manufacturer. They balked and the rest will go down in infamy.
I'd hate to be part of his family. That name will be shit for eons.
Huh? My pushsticks were either $3 from Grizzly or HF or they were
free, using cutoff scrap from my projects. What'd you do, buy one of
those ghastly overpriced holders called the Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrripoff?
You are not alone in those feelings. Had he been fair, no doubt the
gov't would have mandated its use immediately. If they do so now,
expect a horrendous backlash.
I'm still nervously awaiting the straw which breaks the public's back.
I'm amazed that the Occupy situation isn't an armed conflict yet. I
was amazed that Obamacare didn't start another American revolution.
I just hope that when the straw breaks it, that we don't end up with a
racial riot as well as a political one. When the public reaches
critical mass, anything can happen. Are you prepared?
Happiness is not a station you arrive at, but a manner of traveling.
-- Margaret Lee Runbeck
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