Now at first I was assuming that he was talking shortly after the "big bang" so
that the relatives were (I guess) just some form of energy. But then I realized
he said "year" so since we use that term to describe time based on the earth
going around the sun, he must have been talking about when that dust cloud
first started coming together and circling that new star. I guess we were
cosmic dust particles at that point. Of course he could be a really
conservative Jew and be talking about 6,000 years ago or so - but no, he
doesn't seem too religious. I don't know, but my last immigant ancestor that I
am aware of came here from England around 1768 - although there are a couple of
gray areas in the mid 1800's that could have been some newbies. And yes, there
are a couple that apparently immigrated during the ice ages since I am
supposedly about 18% "native" american.
You'd best not say such blasphemous things in the south. Don't you know
that evolution is a dirty word? ;-)
I read a fascinating book a while back, "The Surprising Archaea:
Discovering Another Domain of Life" by Professor John L. Howland of
Bowdoin College. In it he presents the most compelling argument in
support of evolution from they type of event that could give rise to
your primordial stew. An enjoyable and very informative read.
Everett M. Greene wrote:
Sort of like saying "unwed mother" instead of "single parent," is it?
Or in line with the discussion - "illegal alien" versus "undocumented
Anyone but me get Diane Ravitch's _The Language Police_ for Christmas?
It reminded me of my class in early Stalinist literature, except I could
laugh at it then.
Welcome to the new world order.......Why do we keep electing these same
people year after year who do nothing but accept special interest
contributions, take care of them selves, and continue to sell us out?
I'm not sure how much of this you can blame on government vs. behavior
patterns of our citizenry. Protectionism never works -- looking back at
the luddites and others who opposed the industrial revolution or looking
at the quality of goods produced in countries with protected industries
shows that such behaviors only have short-term benefits and long-term
I have no idea what the answer is, but I don't think looking to
government to solve the problem is the answer.
Take another look. The Luddites were not protectionists per se, they
were anti-technology. As were those who opposed th4 industrial
And the reason that protected industries tend to produce shoddy goods is
that they're not subject to competition within their own country, not
because of protection against foreign goods. Look at our auto industry.
When GM and Ford and Chrysler controlled the market, they all went
downhill because they cooperated more than they competed. And we've all
heard endless stories about price-fixing in a lot of industries.
So saying that protectionism doesn't work is somewhat akin to
Chesterton's famous quote "Christianity has not been tried and found
wanting, it's still wanting to be tried." :-).
And I repeat my previous assertion that the major problem we face is
preserving our independence. How do you fight a war if all your
steel/oil/electronics is imported from a country that becomes, or favors,
You know, I hear this periodically as an argument in this culture war.
Whether any or all other arguments against imports are valid or not I
don't know, but I find this one rather silly.
What kind of a war can you imagine that would have all the
manufacturering countries against us and be so protracted in actual
battle that we use up all of our tanks, airplanes and guns, yet we
don't call an end to it by using the nukes?
I find it difficult to imagine an all-out, protracted, conventional
battlefield war like WWII occuring. The type of serious attacks and
battles that would require would rapidly escalate to where one side or
the other would threaten nukes and some negotiated stand-off would
happen (or the nukes would actually be used).
I think you are planning the last war - which often gets nations in
Ouch! So it's no problem 'cause we could always nuke 'em? Great
Could be, but I hope the next one is more like that than like the nuclear
you envision. And don't forget that a country, or group of countries,
can exert a lot of pressure without war. Did we threaten to nuke the
Arabs over the oil embargo?
So where did I say it was a solution to anything. I simply asserted that is the
FAR more likely senerio than a protracted battlefield war if either side came
anywhere near to losing or suffering major causualties. I don't like it, I
never invented the damn things, but they certainly changed the mathmatics of
major wadfare forever.
What does that have to do with a war that uses up all of our manufactured war
materials to the extent that we cannot make replacements - which was the
premise of the OP and why he said national security demands that we stop
importing goods to support a national manufacturing base so that we can make
war materials when we get into the next big war.............
Not so sure about other employee-owned outfits, but I do know that the state
employee unions and our teachers' union members would rather see their
"brothers" laid off than forego their raises in a time of tight money.
What was it the beggar said to Tev'e in Fiddler on the roof, when given one
"One kopeck, last week you gave me two kopecks."
"I had a bad week."
"Because you had a bad week, I should suffer?"
There's no doubt that capitalism and international trade are
great economic levellers. However, the level may well be
quite low if nobody can afford to buy the products that are
being produced (cheaply).
they wont worry bout it till its thier jobs that are lost and they
have to downsize that great big high dollar house they bought. does
anyone realy think they will be able to afford to live here in the
style they have become accustomed to on the wages that are paid for
services????? i think not.
That's not the problem. The problem is our growing dependency on the
rest of the world. It's hard to stay independent when your
tank/jeep/halftrack/etc engines are all made elsewhere, just to pick an
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