OT: The CoOp leading the way?

Nature doesn't "intend" anything.

Local Sainsburys sells 200 pints of proper milk for every carton of watery-white nonsense pretending to be 'milk'.

I find Quorn products variable, some have an unpleasant tang, others where you might expect the meat texture as in sausages seem ok.

And apart from which it is easier the roast a lump of meat over an open fire with a just one pointy stick, like they do to this day in rural Brazil.

Bit tricky cooking veggies on an open fire without any pots, which they would not have had.

And it abhores a vacuum, like the space inside the average blinkered activist

Funny that you fail to come up with a single valid / tangible reply to my points, other than admitting your own blinkered POV and selfishness?

Cheers, T i m

because it don't taste like milk, does it?

and if it doesn't taste like milk, don't flipping call it milk

call it <whatever it is> drink

and then market that as a new healthy generic option.

Well of course not. Because the greenies haven't yet managed to persuade TPTB that they should reduce meat consumption by taxing it

but they are on the road to that destinations

Nah...

"Would you like Thin Cold Gruel with that?'" just isn't going to cut it.

Cite (not that that's relevant as I'm sure they didn't sell many 'Slave freedom kits' until they started setting the slaves free).

By 'proper milk' you mean the bovine growth fluid that we once used to help us survive that we no longer need, shouldn't be consuming once weaned, where 60% of the worlds adult population are intolerant to and causes high levels of pollution and resource waste, along with the animal pain , suffering and death you mean?

Have you not evolved at all since we may have *had* to consume such things to survive?

(Don't bother answering that, I know the answer obviously).

Hey, I've found a picture of you, having a natural drink ...

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Erm, in many cases, 'yes'? But aren't you fed up only having the same taste, especcially all these years after you have weaned?

Here you go, I'm sure that will help alleviate your confusion.

It's the cry babies (no irony there of course) who 'complain' that you shouldn't call anything else 'milk' when maybe what you (not me obvs) typically refer to as 'Milk' should actually be called 'Cows Milk' (as in the milk *from* cows (*for* calves etc)).

You can call it what you like but they often call stuff things to make it easier for the thick people to understand what it is and how they might use it. Call it 'Oat drink' and people may not reaslise you can use it in the same way as the milk they have been stealing from calves all these years?

And I must have missed your complaints here about 'peanut butter' not being made of butter (how confusing that must have been for you) or that your beef burger was actually made of horse meat (and very little 'meat' at that) or how 'Milk of magnesia' must have been off and ruined your Rice Crispies?

Do you care about what they call the glue they use to hold together what you think is one bit of meat is called? I mean, if it lists Transglutaminase on the ingredients is that better than saying 'Meat glue'?

They have, as in 'Plant based milk' (where 'milk' is the role, not a brand) but the only people complaining about any of this are the people trying to defend the exploitation of animals and the criminally stupid (defined by the hundreds of other products out there that don't have the contents you assume).

I bet you would support the labeling of a packet of nuts that it 'May contain nuts' (in case you got confused with coal nuts)?

Hey, if you really want to avoid all this confusion (?), pick a more appropriate name for 'Cows milk' from this funny video ...

Ah yes, and the epicentre of the world population of course, so is bound to be representative of how we should all do things today.

Yup ... and thanks for another history lesson Neanderthal ... don't walk too near the edge ...

Cheers, T i m

In my distinctly non-vegan opinion, oat milk goes really well with coffee - perhaps even better than cows milk does. I just happened to see it taste-tested favourably on tv, I think on one of those "Inside the Factory things" on a milk producer and thought I had little to lose by trying it. There was even some food-sciencey reason why it was expected to work well. I did buy a slightly fancier brand of oat milk, but I was very pleasantly surprised.

Haven't been adventurous enough to try it with tea, though :-)

#Paul

I agree. In fact we generally keep 3 plant based milks on the go. Oat milk to whiten hot beverages, unsweetened soya for my cereal and sweetened for hers.

Any can be used for any role, just we prefer that range for those uses (and variety is the spice of life eh). ;-)

What isn't. ;-)

And that's the right attitude Paul, especially if it means in doing so, less suffering and death is imposed on innocent creatures (even if you aren't doing it for that reason).

Oh?

We (or daughter atm) just get's it from Aldi I think but we have been buying ours (mostly Soya) from Sainsbury's for over 5 years now.

We have a friend who is 'fussy' about how he takes his tea, it has to have just the right amount of milk etc and whilst I might make an effort to get it right for us (or a visitor who expresses a preference), I normally say 'white / normal / no sugar thanks' to anyone asking me how I like my tea they are making me and drink it 'whatever' (well, so far anyway).

Even our local biker burger-van keeps a selection of plant based milks because more and more people are asking / preferring it over the stuff meant for baby cows (even big hairy bikers). ;-)

It's no different from going from say Heinz baked beans to 'Own label' that are slightly different but not 50p (or whatever) different / better per tin. Well, in general the own label BB are lower in sugar and salt than Heinz and so like plant based milk, they are actually better for you. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

They did actually and you can also cook veg in the ashes with root veg.

The only cry babies are the fanatics carving for real cow's milk, but their 'loved ones' won't let them drink the nectar.

Are you saying vegans are too thick to understand oaty water?

Quite, in some countries it is called peanut cheese because of issues with being called butter

When you use cow's milk we don't get those issues. You make things very difficult for yourself.

I prefer to use egg as a binder.

You're the one bringing up the inappropriate use of milk. Perhaps it's an idea to confuse those with lower intelligence it can be treated and used as if it is real cow's milk.

Which goes to show the lengths a fanatical vegan will go to to lose an argument.

Yes it is funny, it shows the lengths fanatics will go to.

There's quite a bit of evidence to suggest Neanderthal were more intelligent than humans.

It is also noted that dogs (slaves that you would refer to as pets) were not usually associated with Neanderthal settlements.

I'm sure you fail to come up with a single valid / tangible reply to the points below, other than admitting your own blinkered POV and envy towards those who have a natural balanced diet.

Of course I enjoy those as well as cows milk, an even greater variety.

Not much.