light dimmer leading/trailing edge FAQ

Dec 24, 2024 Last reply: 1 year ago 8 Replies

I've just installed a new light fitting with dimmable LED bulbs and it's connected to an existing light dimming switch.



The bulbs don't dim at all, just stay at full brightness.



Is this the expected behaviour of a bulb that requires trailing edge dimming but is connected to a leading edge dimmer switch or should I expect some form of step dimming or flickering?



Previously the dimmer worked with the LED bulb fitted in the old light fitting but this new one only takes the smaller E14 bulbs where there seems less choice for the dimmable versions.



The easiest option for me would be to possibly fit a trailing edge dimmer switch rather than try and find a working bulb to work with the existing switch.


I've had better success with the v-Pro dimmers, than MK LED-specific dimmers (flickery) the v-pro can be 'programmed' to different modes to suit the lamps.

+1. Basically dimmable LEDs are a hack. The LED driver notices the mangled mains waveform from the dimmer and works out how much to dim the LED. If the mains waveform doesn't match what the bulb is expecting it won't dim, and cheaper LEDs won't have enough energy storage to keep going through a mains cycle and may flicker.

So when you change the lamps you need to set the dimmer to something they expect. Different modes on the dimmer can be helpful here.

Another option is to fit one halogen bulb in the fitting which gives a more continuous current waveform through the whole cycle. I have a V-Pro dimmer with some dimmable GU10s and without that they flicker at low dim settings.

Theo

In general, trailing edge dimmers are recommended for LED bulbs but some are fine with leading edge ones. The LE dimmers were fitted ( about) 1998 so long before LED bulbs were around.

We used LE ones with some LED bulbs - IKEA large globes ( I think 120W equivalent) and 3 40W equivalents in wall lights without issues in two rooms. ( We originally used ordinary bulbs - I fitted LED ones once they became available.)

When one of the IKEA globes failed - after a several years- I bought a dimmable globe of Amazon ( in fact a pack of 3). They were hopeless. Erratic dimming and like a cigarette end. I returned them. I ordered some non- globe dimmables, which are fine.

I bought a pair of dimmer switches, which claim to be able to self adjust, to suit either leading, or trailing edge dimmable LED lamps. I'm not clear how that works?

These were to replace a pair of ancient dimmers, which had continued to work fine, after I had swapped the lamps from halogen, to dimmable LED, but the LED lamps were just too low wattage. I replaced them with higher wattages, but then they no longer dimmed, so time for new dimmers to suit.

This is a good argument for a 12V DC supply for lighting. Then PWM dimmers can be employed.

Update:

Fitted a V-pro dimming switch as suggested in this thread. The lights now dim as expected on the default trailing edge mode. I haven't had to programme any of the other functions.

The current needed is 20x that at 240v!

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