OT:Stupid speed limits ?

If that were the case, no one would break the limit. The chances of getting caught are low.

It's also the case that speed cameras tend to be sited where there is the best chance of catching someone speeding, rather than where speeding would be most dangerous.

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Dave Plowman (News)
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Er, the 1900s called and want their tech back.

Average speed cameras are the Thing now. Certainly all over Brum. My personal observation is they seem to be working, as it's pretty much impossible to speed in traffic now.

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Jethro_uk

Don't worry, they will try to prove you wrong.

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Richard

Lead foot brigade? This speed awareness course was for?

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Richard

Total bollocks. Bad driving is driving without consideration for others. If a person travels at 150mph on an empty motorway, is that bad driving? If a person travels at 75mph on a busy motorway where most of the traffic is doing likewise, is that bad driving? If a smug bastard hogs the middle lane at 69mph on the same motorway, that is bad driving.

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Richard

You have average speed cameras on the sorts of 20 mph limit side roads being discussed here?

There are non in London. Only place I've seen average speed cameras is on main roads. Where there is never a 20 mph limit.

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Dave Plowman (News)

:-)

For the innocent people of course.

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ARW

Porsche. I bet there are more drivers of Fiestas who speed than Porsche drivers. Envy is a sad old emotion.

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Richard

Bit prone to exaggeration, aren't you?

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Thank goodness they're gone from the M3. The 20 or so miles of them whilst the motorway was being smartened was really irritating.

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Richard

That's like betting that more people called Dave have an IQ below 80 than people called Montmorency.

Where has anyone shown envy of you or other Porsche owners?

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Robin

Isn't there a requirement to signpost a speed change?

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alan_m

Which in part is why the 20 limit is stupid. The other reason is that it vastly increases the number of speed limits (and their attendant signs) that may be in force at any given spot. Meaning that one has to spend longer looking at/for signs rather than watching the road.

In the UK signage historically was designed to get people safely from A to B, not as a punishment. This contrasts with the US, where signage is designed as a trap and hence a revenue raising mechanism (which is why income from traffic fines MUST go to central govt and NEVER to the local/police authority).

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Tim Streater

Which with wide lanes wouldn't have been dangerous, so therefore it wasn't "speeding". Unless the road was on an estate, but then why would it have been originally intended as 3-lanes.

and added to congestion.

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Tim Streater

Probably Police cars.

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alan_m

Southend on Sea has average speed cameras for 20 mph on one of its busy main east-west routes.

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alan_m

Bad driving is driving beyond reasonable limits of the prevailing conditions and is usually caused by not actually being fully aware of what those conditions are - due to actually being distracted by all the legally binding road signs...

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Then why single out Porsche drivers?

I don't drive a Porsche. It is you who felt the need to target a specific car type.

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Richard

Perhaps it is time for you to wear blinkers when driving? Try to retain context when snipping.

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Richard

Not yet ...

A456, A38, A45 in Brum that I know of atm. More planned.

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Jethro_uk

Speeding = exceeding the speed limit, which is 40mph.

Fairly common layout in the 1930s to have a three lane road with service roads on either side on the outskirts of a town.

That road has never been congested, which was part of the problem. Most traffic travels at its free traffic speed, which is lower on a road with narrower lanes.

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Nightjar

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