So improve the lot of animals by campaigning for improved conditions, such as supporting the campaigns against the live slaughter of animals, being bled to death while hanging upside down.
In reality you just want to impose your vegan diet on others. You don't care about animal welfare. It's merely a ruse to convert us.
Like this:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but *you* have done nothing to change my views.
Piss off T r o l l
I've already pointed out you need a strategy. A example is perhaps someone like Tim want to ban corporal punishment in schools.
The first step was to ban the hitting of children (and most importantly wives to gain their support) with anything larger than a thumb, which happened in ~1960 (not sure of precise date). We are now in a situation where even smacking a child is banned in Scotland.
If, in the 50s, the likes of Tim had advocated a ban of smacking it may well have hardened attitudes and we would still have the cane in schools.
But as you say, he's too far up himself to see that, and ignores issues that could be campaigned now, in a one way ratchet type of progression, on route to his goal.
Give him time, he's only been vegan since January.
I got arrested at Speakers' corner in 2001 for putting the apostrophe in the wrong place :-)
You could stop being a zealot and go back to a natural source of B12.
Ah, you miss something you used to enjoy and hate the idea of others enjoying what you've given up.
Are we now considering the torture imposed on domesticate animals leading the life we choose; like pets?
And anyone who does understand what goes on is subject to abuse.
Yes, it's called nature.
A noble cause would be to campaign against the bleading to death of animals whilst alive. But you wouldn't support noble causes apart because in reality you're jealous we can eat meat without our wives subjecting us to veganism.
Some studies say colorectal cancers are higher in vegans than other groups that aren't so pedantic about not eating meat products or fish products.
Now you've been reformed, any chance of putting the apostle in the right place?
He's not worth the effort.
Even with no lube.
Ok, let's put your BS to bed once and for all.
Now I'm going out on a limb here because it will assume you can cope with 'hypothetical situations' and from every piece of BS you have come out with in reply to what I have stated so far suggests you can't, but lets give it a go.
Let's pretend (tricky for a left brainer I know) that there are *only* two cows and that 1 cow will feed 10 people.
20 people, who have previously eaten meat, now need to obtain a 'Meat eaters licence' and they all go for the beef licence (they recognise the word 'beef' in 'beef burger).All 20 turn up at the slaughterhouse, two won't even go in, two puke up at stage one (the animal being stunned), four faint at stage two (seeing it hung up and it's throat cut) and another two leave before the end (when the carcase is cut open and all it's guts spill out). So, 10 fail, 10 pass.
Now, they have already killed one of the cows and so that can bought (in it's dissected parts) by the remaining 10 from the attached 'Mat shop', as they now have their licence.
The remaining cow doesn't need to be killed as they only need to feed the 10 and so is set free.
Now, this is the bit where we see if you can follow this theoretical scenario: [1]
To what level have we reduced the total level of animal cruelty (that day with those two cows and those people, obviously <sigh>)? [2]
Ok, to make it easier for you Rod///Fredxx, I'll make it multiple choice .
1) 50% 2) 50% 3) 50% 4) 50%Cheers, T i m
[1]
As usual you can only put forward an argument whilst being abusive to anyone who disagrees with you.
Not anyone mate, just you and the other stupid trolls.
See, once again, no comment on the point, just more pathetic bleating and playing the victim.
You aren't the victim, you are the unrepentant murderer.
Cheers, T i m
Interesting, I guess you first said the marble was in Anne's basket. But then when you then said it was in Sally's you congratulated yourself for getting it right.
Since when have I ever said I was the victim?
This is how silly your scheme is.
There should be a vegan's licence acceptable and to gain this: you would have to drill a row of corn or some suitable crop, be amongst the mist when sprayed with insecticide plus a few inane functions in agriculture
To what level have we reduced the total level of fanatic vegans?
Ok, to make it easier for you Cheers Tim, I'll make it multiple choice .
1) 50% 2) 50% 3) 50% 4) 50%If you find a vegan's licence acceptable and have to jump through a few hoops to get it I would happily answer your post.
I haven't murdered anyone, nor do I have the desire to. I eat the animals killed for me. I have no intention of killing for sport.
The difference between you and me is I want to reduce animal suffering.
You simply wouldn't support campaigns so that any act on the animal that might cause pain should only be done so on an animal that is either stunned or otherwise unaware of its surroundings.
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