NHS app and vaccination passport.

It's not different surgeries using the software. There are various third party providers who are offering the service of access to your data. I use Patient Access because that was who the surgery seemed to have partnered with originally. AFAIK, I could have switched to another. I recall getting a letter from (NHS? Can't remember now) listing what the options are. My assumption is that all these bods are working in partnership with the NHS which gives them access to the data so it can be then displayed to you. It's very useful, but what their business model is I know not. I also don't know what security there is, e.g., who is actually holding my data?

It seems to have my inoculation record going back to 2010 or so.

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Tim Streater
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I have my father's, dated from when he was discharged from the Army in 1945

- no photo there either.

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charles

Interesting. I've seen a few of those cards, and all but the kids' ones had photos. I don't think I have my mother's - if I do it will be with her RAF discharge papers, but I can't get at that stuff at the moment.

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S Viemeister

only those who might require access to secure sites had photos on their ID cards. There was a good deal of comment at the time that ID cards weren't much use as proof of identity. And I especially liked those who suggested a thumb print would be easier and better than a photo in any event.

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Robin

What do believe "digital driving licence" in the UK to be?

How do believe publicans and shop keepers check for under age purchases? What form of age related identification do you believe the UK population carries?

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alan_m

Ah. That makes sense. A number of my relatives were involved with the sort of thing which made it necessary for them to sign the Official Secrets Act paperwork.

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S Viemeister

Pray tell us how these magic Digital facilities work in the UK? Not how the Police or Airport immigration may use them but how a shop keeper uses them to validate the sale of alcohol for instance and/or how a doorman at venue or ticket seller would access a data base in real time.

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alan_m

But I just say I'm Rod Speed and these are the details on the data base they check to allow access. How is another member of the public (bar staff, ticket sellers, doormen) going to know I'm not using another identity?

The whole point of any covid passport is not to stop those who have been given the vaccine and are using the correct details but to prevent others who have not had the vaccine (nor a recent negative test) attending indoor or crowded events.

It's like believing that having a driving licence system stops joy riding or drink driving, a passport system stops people in rubber boats entering the country, having scrap metal laws stop metal theft etc.

Law (rules) are only obeyed by those who are law abiding.

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alan_m

As one who passed both the Scottish & English licencing exams, the answer is anyone who looks under 25 needs to have something to prove their age if they want to be served alcohol.

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charles

Including all the fake age ID that can be purchased on line?

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alan_m

we were instructed how to look out for this.

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charles

I say I'm Rod Speed and he checks this data base using this funky gadget to see that Rod Speed exists. His check doesn't identify me as someone else. Which part of this existing (or proposed) central data base is going to identify my correct name to a third party, say, when entering a pub if I choose to adopt or borrow another identity to circumvent covid restrictions?

If I had a valid vaccine record I wouldn't need to pretend to be someone else. Someone without vaccination and/or a recent current negative test could easily adopt another identity. It seems that when indoor venues had to record their customers details after the first lockdown it was found that a large percentage of parents had named their offspring after Disney characters!

Do you actually believe that many business on the verge of collapse are actually going to make too much effort in checking the validity of covid passport if this results in a loss of business?

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alan_m

How do you know the secure web site you visit is genuine? Same way, with a cryptographically signed certificate that ties into a traceable certificate authority. So you can tell the information is genuine, has not been tampered with, and the identification information contained within has been verified.

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John Rumm

Thought I'd give an update. Every man and his dog seemed to have a method of updating the S4. Sadly, most of the articles had links to the needed software that no longer worked. And it seems there are lots of S4 versions. Different processors, for one thing. All of which need different Android update software. Also wasn't clear that I needed a micro SD card installed in the phone to back things up to.

Other odd thing is most seem to call my S4 an i9505 Yet everything I have on it says GT-19505. Perhaps the same as Rover SD1 being called an SDi.;-)

But one thing was clear. To install TWRP before everything else.

Ideally, I'd have liked to do everything from the laptop. Nice big screen and keyboard. Think it may be possible, but got Google strain.

So had to do it with TWRP on the phone in recovery mode. And ignore all the dire warnings.

Getting the fooking S4 into recovery mode being a real pain - just look at the edits on U-Tube when they show how to do it. Oddly, it goes into download mode easily.

After a few hours of reading and playing around, I finally got 6.0.1 up and running with G-apps installed too. All seemed OK.

Next day, having the bit between my teeth, thought it might make sense to upgrade to the latest Android, before doing all the multitude of settings. Think 10. But even more of a problem finding which version to use.

The details on the phone say ARMv7 processor, but not 32 or 64 bit. And the crDroid type seemed to be jfltexx

Tried and failed, so when back to V6.

At least the NHS app now works. And having MyPhoneExplorer allowed easy restore of the contacts list and so on.

I can see now why so many just get a new phone.

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Dave Plowman (News

Well done for getting through to the end anyway!

(spose if the doodoo really hit the fan you can get a new old stock s4 from ebay for £45)

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John Rumm

Your birth date is printed on your driver's licence.

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Dave Plowman (News

The instructions on how to were all similar, and OK. The big problem was identifying and finding the correct software for my exact model. Not helped by so many links on the articles no longer working correctly.

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Dave Plowman (News
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Sorry to hear that. ;-(

That's something I think you tend to get when you spend more money.

You can see the stabilisation in play when I zoom my (fairly old now) Samsung Galaxy S7 and (much to my surprise), you have to be very 'slack' to take any picture that's motion blurred.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

The wayback machine can be handy for getting hold of stuff from long dead links.

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John Rumm

Glad I sold my S2 last year! Well, to be honest, used it to get a money back on a new Samsung phone and flogged that at a reasonable profit.

Was amazed they accepted something that old.

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polygonum_on_google

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