Anyone using propane tank level monitoring app?

Sep 02, 2016 Last reply: 5 years ago 36 Replies

Have you experience with using a remote propane monitor on your phone?

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My thousand-gallon propane tank just ran almost dry (down to 20%) because the propane company forgot to fill it on schedule at around 30%.



I had to make an emergency call, but I'm considering adding a $15 Rochester Remote Ready (R3D) compatible level dial

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And then I can connect the remote-sensing wifi hardware:

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And then, on my Android or iOS mobile device, I can see the tank level in real time using an app of my choice (after making sure I paint the tank with WiFi, perhaps from a Ubiquiti bullet and cheap 14dBi antenna).

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The batteries on the remote-sensing device last 2.5 years, but I can even put a thumb-sized solar charger on it, since the requirements aren't all that great.

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Have any of you experience with such a thing?


I don't have any experience with a propane monitoring system, but if you want WiFi to cover your whole house and more than 10 acres of land, you need to get a long range, high power, outdoor router antenna, on the roof of your house, for around $80.00. No more dead spots. Adjustable power.

do you have a suggestion for such a device?

For someone who constantly trolls the Apple news groups with bullshit claims that Android is the best mobile operating system for those who want to protect their privacy, it's humorous that you would choose to use a device that sends data about your propane and energy usage to strange internet servers, proving you aren't at all concerned about privacy and are just trolling. : D

want WiFi to cover your whole house and more than 10 acres of land, you nee d to get a long range, high power, outdoor router antenna, on the roof of y our house, for around $80.00. No more dead spots. Adjustable power.

If you have a house with propane on a 10 acre site, why do you need to cover the whole property with wifi? I'm sure the majority of people have a propane tank located a short distance from their house, where it will be within wifi range.

First thing is to decide what kind of monitoring you want. There are some very nice transponders that use cell data, but I'm not interested in paying $40 or more a month for monitoring, even if it does monitoring by a phone app.

I just installed a remote level reader on a water tank 500' from the house. The transmitter comes with a remote receiver that sits in the house and can be set to alarm at an adjustable high or low level. I don't need to know the moment it happens, so waiting until I'm home is fine.

The outhouse is at the far edge of the property, and that is where he does his smartphone work.

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No need to spend anything like that.

I do the same as you, but many of the residents here are not home for many months at a time (I don't think there is a single person here who only owns a single home).

So you have to have someone *check* the tank if you don't have any way of checking it yourself.

Out here, Amerigas and Suburban and Ferrell Gas will come on a calculated schedule basis.

But a 50,000 gallon pool sucks up propane like you can't believe; so it's hard to calculate when you'll run out of fuel just after having left on a

3-month vacation (which many here do).

I have called all the propane suppliers in the area, and while some have automatic tank-monitoring equipment (some use GPS satellites, others user the customers' cellphone or landline), most don't have any automatic monitoring.

In general, for the majority who don't offer automated level meters, they tell me they visit when they *calculate* 30% to be the remaining fuel in the tank.

The question was asked for the residents in our homeowner association, which covers everyone who lives in the surrounding mountains (a few hundred homes in toto).

It wasn't necessarily asked for me (although my gas company already agreed to give me a free R3D for my own tank). The R3D is about $15 bucks retail, and the installation is trivial (two screws) but most people will opt for the $50 installation fee to have the propane company install the dial.

Why are they heating a pool they aren't using for three months?

Keeps deadly bacteria alive so anyone sneaking into the pool will get sick. Or worse

I'm with Patty. If you're stupid enough to heat the pool while on a 3 month absence, you have nothing to bitch about except your own stupidity.

Maybe that's the issue you should bring home.

(Reminds me of those idiots in NYC who have "all in" rents that include electricity. So they leave for 2 weeks in the summer with the AC set to

74°F.)

It sounds like a very convenient and reasonable thing to have to me.

Yes. But I don't have experience with them.

The most often suggested is the first on this list:

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It's this one:

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Most tanks are pretty close to the house. They can't be closer than 25 feet from a flammable object (house included) but they're usually not much further than 25 to 50 feet.

However, most companies who put in tanks include as part of the original quote that they will lay 100 feet of pipe in a trench that you have to dig.

So, I would guess from that standard quote, that 100 feet is generally the maximum for "most" homes.

Read again what I wrote. And it was just an example anyway.

What I wrote was:

  1. They heat the pool
  2. They don't check the tank
  3. They go on vacation
  4. They run out of fuel months earlier than normal

It was just an example.

Re-read what I wrote. There was a temporal clause in there. The heating of the pool came before the vacation. If people don't check their tanks before going on vacation, then they might be surprised how much fuel was used up in heating the pool.

It was just an example.

Heating a pool would only increase the bacteria, which I assume you realized and you were only joking.

system, but if you want WiFi to cover your whole house and more than 10 acres of land, you need to get a long range, high power, outdoor router antenna, on the roof of your house, for around $80.00. No more dead spots. Adjustable power.

Painting a propane tank with WiFi is almost trivial, no matter how far away from the house it may be.

Due to the nature of trenching requirements, most tanks are within 50 feet of the house (although they can't be closer than 25 feet by code).

50 feet is absolutely nothing for a WiFi transmitter (we only use Ubiquiti equipment such as a pico or nano or rocket).

We can paint a WiFi transmitter ten miles away with these things.

I recommend Ubiquiti equipment.

Cheap. Powerful. Lots of support. Nice forum.

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That forum is kind of like the home repair forum, and absolutely nothing like the Apple forum (which is filled with babies).

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