It's objective enough. Read my other posts on this and experiences of buying this grade of tool at most outlets. Picking one of these up, fiddling with the mechanics and looking at the build quality tells me all I need to know.
Periodically, I have the opportunity to look at some of these in more detail with battery pack installed. THe conclusions don't change.
Most decent quality drills today will work perfectly well with present day battery technology. What may, or may not, be wonderful for a mobile phone doesn't necessarily mean the same advances for power tools. There's just no point in making a cordless drill smaller or lighter than current decent ones - except possibly for specialist use. And you can be certain any new battery technology will be more expensive and have other disadvantages. Self discharge is one. Doesn't matter on a phone which will be charged regularly. But a DIY cordless drill which was flat each time you wanted it would be a waste of time.
You seem to have missed this bit on their advertising blurb
"For high power applications in power tools and appliances, Li-S is nearly the same as nickel cadmium and nickel metal hydride in its rate capability"
Now the high current rate of a decent Ni-Cad is *essential* to a decent drill - just changing the mediocre ones supplied with a PPPro etc for good ones makes a vast difference to even that drill.
Lithium batteries ain't the best choice for power tools. In exactly the same way as combis aren't the solution to everyone's hot water requirements.
Yup. I can't see the benefit of the added complication and weight of hammer action on a cordless, given that most common bricks etc can be drilled OK with a decent bit and no hammer action. For engineering bricks or concrete you need SDS anyway. And an SDS cordless is for even more specialised needs.
Maybe we should get him a hacksaw with lithium battery for Christmas....... It could save a lot of problems for a lot of people..... :-)
I can think of one person that I know who has and benefits from one of these, and that is a professional antenna and satellite dish installation guy.
He has a cordless Bosch SDS of nominal 2kg IIRC. The battery pack doubles that I would think. He has a harness for when he's climbing ladders etc. to prevent the drill from getting caught.
He tells me that he feels a lot safer with it than a corded model, although still has to deal with feeder cables, of course. Plus he's more productive for sure.
For him, it was certainly a worthwhile buy, but I believe he paid over £300 for it at the time.
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Actually I borrowed one of these off a M8 of mine for a few weeks last summer and its a super bit of kit:) I had to drill quite a few holes in a concrete house and it went through it like it didn't exist.
Pity but I can't justify one for my needs, but for the line of work he's in, aerial rigging!, it is a must....
I use a DeWalt DW999K2 18v SDS for fixing pipe hangers in places like underground car parks where there is no local power source. It's much lighter than the 24volt Bosch SDS especially when you have to work overhead, although Bosch are probably much better tools in terms of reliability.
Exactly. He's doing something like 10 installations a day if it's contract grade aerials or subsidised Sky dishes, or half that number for good materials and a proper job.
He reckons that it saves him a good 30 minutes a day at least, as well as feeling a great deal safer.
I think Argos sell a DIY battery SDS for around #50-60. Must be OK fo DIY
-- Doctor Evil
I think Argos sell a DIY battery SDS for around #50-60. Must be OK fo DIY
-- Doctor Evil
You know as much about new battery technology and price as you kno about lubrication oils
-- Doctor Evil
They are now experts in new battery technology. What bright sparks w have here.....
-- Doctor Evil
Not my experience with either modern London bricks, Surrey stocks or a number of other types. Old victorian bricks, sometimes.
Regards Capitol
Hi,
I recently tried out a Challenge 'Xtreme' planer for the first time after buying it 8 months previously and it was terrible, in that the blades were well out of alignment and the method of adjusting them was a nightmare. Also the front part of the base was some way out of parallel with the back so no matter how the blades were adjusted it would never give good results.
So I went back to Argos and got my £24 back, then bought a £31 Skil planer from Machinemart and the difference was like night and day. OK it was less powerful and with a much lower depth of cut but gave far better results.
Though I'd agree that not everyone needs a planer to do a precise job and that it can be the luck of the draw with tools at this price range.
cheers, Pete.
Why don't you buy one, then you can let us know if it's any good.
Did your dad use them with his condoms by any chance?
I think that that is a very sensible choice for a tool of that type and expected use. Planers of this type really aren't going to be precision tools anyway.
Having less power and less depth of cut is a better way to work anyway. If you try to take off 3mm or more, you're going to make a mess anyway.
I don't need one as I have mains SDS. The suggestion was for soemone who admired such a drill but thought it too expensive. Maybe you could buy one and let him know.
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