Some of them are downright arrogant about it. Many, many years ago
I was knocking on a door with my TV service caddy in view. A
neighbor came out and asked, "telEphono?" I said, "No, TELevision."
She repeated her question and I repeated my answer. She repeated
the process over and over until I said, "teleBIsion." As if she
couldn't figure out what I was talking about, she maintained her
ground until I used the Spanish pronunciation of the same damned
All relevant people are pertinent.
All rude people are impertinent.
No I got by in the public markets, non-tourist areas. There has always
been ways to communicate, lots of mixed language and pointing usually gets
the job done. More often than not someone around can translate.
That is a good reason for someone to personally decide to learn English.
I just don't see how that would be a reason for someone else to get bent out
of shape because some had not yet learned English or had decided not to. It
should be a personal choice.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? You won't do that?
FYI, retard, I'm currently in Spanish lessons. I feel this is necessary.
So would I if I was planning an extended trip to a Spanish speaking country.
What it means that I doubt you'll actually pick up the phone and ask to
speak to a speech therapist about why it takes longer (or forever) for
adults to pick up a second language.
By the way, here's a response that's not allowed - it's already been crushed
in lots of other identical discussions: "I'm taking language lessons, and
they can, too". It's not always true, for any number of obvious reasons.
Good idea, maybe you should leave? Why do you want those who disagree
with your prejudice should leave?
So you think it is wrong to offer signs in Spanish for those who are
hear less than one year?
If we think you are not a good citizen, should we tell you to leave?
The question was about Home Depot providing the signs. No one is asking
you to. Why do you feel the way you do? Do you fear something.
How is your opinion that certain people should leave a fact? It may be
a fact that someone does not know English, but what that means about their
right to remain in this country is opinion not fact. Do you need a
definition of fact in another language?
Because if people don't speak AT LEAST English, then they have more
problems getting around, communicating with people, etc. Heck even in
China, they are teaching almost everyone English as it is the language
of business and commerce.
Don't have any problem with people speaking Esperanto if they want
to amongst their friends, relatives, etc. But English is still the main
language and for assimilation purposes, people need to speak it.
> speech and I don't recall the freedom of speech being restricted to
How you get that, from the constitution, is beyond comprehension,.
There are a number of studies showing that getting non-English
speaking kids out of bilingual classes and into English only schools
increases their grades, etc. Bilingual teaching is a method of
But why does it concern you? If they think it makes life easier to
them, they will learn. What other things would you want to change about
them? I wonder what they might want to change about you? IMO Diversity is
one thing that makes a great country. The fear and hate of diversity is what
makes a terrible country.
I might suggest that the question was about signs at Home Depot.
I think that the question of public education should be reviewed.
I might also remind you of the treatment of Native Americans in this
country and forcing their children to not only learn English, but punishing
them for using their native languages. To me that was a truly ugly part of
our history. I see much of the same attitudes showing up here.
It concerns me because it makes for a permanent underclass. As I
mentioned, they can retain the old ways (like the Chinese, Irish and
other number of previous waves of immigration over the years). But they
ALSO need to learn Spanish to function in the society.
You might suggest that, and I would have to agree originally. But the
discussion has evolved into the rest of it.
I don't. There is no punishment, aside from self-inflicted, in
this case. The studies show that the punishment (by not assimilating,
having problems communicating, limiting advancement, etc) is more subtle
and inflicted on them by those trying to "help" them.
You know, I don't know of very many second generations immigrants from
any country that don't know the local language. You don't have to force
people or sham them into learning the second language. I had some friends
from Africa. Within the first year the father had passable English, the
three kids spoke English better than many US born kids and mom still only
understood a few words of English. Everyone got along fine and dad was
doing very well economically.
I don't want to discourage anyone from learning English, but why do so
many people fear people who don't speak English. Why can't they let others
decide for themselves?
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