In 1982 when I moved to Florida, my spouse decided that there was a store in
Hialeah near Miami that had just what she needed. There was a Home Depot
just across the way. I wanted to pick up some vents for the soffits in our
new house. There was no one in that store who spoke enough English to tell
me where they were.
This really has become a hot issue, hasn't it. I am sympathetic to
people who feel that laws ought to be enforced- even as I am dubious
about the practicality of it- are the Solons in D.C. capable of
passing anything that is realistic enough to be enforceable? Strongly
doubt that. People are drawn here by market forces- legally and
otherwise- and these incentives are not weak. Of course it could be
disorienting to find nobody who speaks English at an HD- but this
reflects the customer/ workforce market reality of that particular
location. Hispanic immigration is of course a big wave compared to
that from other areas, but these people do learn English- it is in
their interest, as others have noted. They don't always do so
immediately, but in 30 years they'll be complaining that their grankids
can barely speak Spanish. Remember, the U.S. has been through this
before- late 19/early 20 century. My best friend's Italian grandmother
never did learn to speak English, like many of her generation. Her
daughter was and granddaughter is a shoolteacher, and my friend an
exceptionally literate if underemployed bookstore employee.
I'm not against border control/ enforcement, but find myself
preaching market economics to conservatives, who are all for effective
governmental action. Actions which impact the market could have some
effect on illegal immigration- for example, strong enforcement of wage
and hour laws, reducing incentive for employers to hire illegals. Also,
a high gas tax, which could be rebated to federal tax filers through
some sort of credit, pushing us toward toward energy efficiency. Those
who don't file obviously wouldn't get rebate. Well, I'm probably just
stirring the coals with my "foolish liberal blather."
In general, it has seemed to me as I've gotten older that hypocrisy
makes the world go round; not the most uplifting thought, but it could
be a lot worse. Helped Oskar Schindler save some Jews froim the Nazis.
People imagine that if only we take such and such harsh, draconian
actions, we will finally have an orderly, controlled world, and all
will be hunky dory. I'm sure we could improve the situation- if we act
with some wisdom, some firmness, some compassion, but it's always going
to be a messy, disorderly world- thank god.
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:16:27 -0400, "Charlie Bress"
And if you drove to Liberty City, they speak Ebonics <sp>. In the
early '80's English was voted as the official language in Dade County.
That was with a 45% population of Hispanics.
Ever talk to a computer tech in New Delhi?
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."
What a shame !!!! Glad it's not that way here in S.GA as I went to my
HD today and a US flag was flying on the top middle of the building and
I didn't really notice any Spanish on the signs inside. But speaking of
your area of FL, I can't order sweet tea in the resturants there either!!
Charlie Bress wrote:
Maybe a different perspective would be helpful
Most of the Western US were taken by the US from Mexico by Force.
Maybe this is Montezuma's revenge: They are merely taking California and
Mexico back with the power of the bedroom.
Mass-migrations of people are not stoppable. Let's welcome them back. In two
generations they will all speak English and we will all be a little browner.
How un-American. Killing native Americans, waging war to take lands, or
making preemptive war to secure oil is not something you are suppose to talk
about. It is not being a good American. At least it is not being a good
American if you don't believe that we as citizens have a responsibility to
be willing to question our government, not just accept it.
Wrong. Texas petitioned the US for statehood. Mexico didn't like it
and went to war. When we won, the treaty they signed SOLD us New
Mexico and parts west for something around $15 million, and we
split off parts of then-Texas for inclusion in various other
All relevant people are pertinent.
All rude people are impertinent.
Many large companies want to make all their customers feel comfortable
in their place of business. The more comfortable they are the more
they will buy, the more they buy the more people are needed to stock
the shelves and assist the customers.
Here in Canada, we have stores that try to hire people from as many
nationalities as possible to ensure that the customers feel comfortable
and can get the assistance they need.
Whistler Mountain, classed as a world premier ski resort has always had
multi-lingual signs for travellers. It only makes good business sense.
Just my two cents as a small business person.
Back in the 60's I worked for a US department store. They kept a list
of employees with various language skills. Anytime we had a customer with
communication problems we called a special number and they would send
someone down. While I was there I had on French speaker and one Arab area
customer, I don't think I ever figured out what specific language, but we
provided service and made a good sale. That was one of the few times I
handled $500 bills.
I can confirm it. I just got back from buying an air filter at Lowes
and most of the larger permanent signs were in both languages. The font of
the Spanish was about 30% of the size of the English however.
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