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[Unquestionably Confused]

Lightning "protectors"/surge arrestors are part and parcel of a good UPS. Two birds for the price of one.

[gfretwell]

You must have fossil fuel hot water, no air conditioning, fossil stove, city water etc

[Bert]

Because well pump and air conditioning compressors have high starting current requirements?

[Mark Lloyd]

They do. My A/C compressor has a running current of 17A and a starting current of 82A.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

I assumed a generator would be like an inverter in that it could handle a short burst above it's continuous load.

[Unquestionably Confused]

Most do. They will advertise them at either the running or startup (typically the former) and will generally handle a startup load ~ 25% greater.

Thus, a genset rated at 9.2kW will tolerate a starting load of 11.5kW

[Fred]

I try to keep my generator loaded around 50-75% capacity since that's where the voltage and frequency are the most stable. If you have a lot of motor loads, power factor while on generator is a concern as well.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

Shouldn't a decent generator compensate for that sort of thing?

[Ralph Mowery]

They do compenstae,but if a heavy load is put or taken off, it takes a second or two for the engine to compensate for the load. You get some over or under shoot on the voltage.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

That's not much more. Motors need a LOT above their running load to start.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

United my arse.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

So somehow your presumably identical system fails while theirs doesn't?

[James Wilkinson Sword]

And here in the UK they're talking about all this new wonderful 5G shit, with fibre broadband speed signals. Yeah right, let's be able to make calls first....

[James Wilkinson Sword]

Jews are in the news all the time whining about "anti-semetic stuff". Who cares? Believe in a fictitious being and you'll get made fun of, now f*ck off out of my life.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

Natural (methane) gas. 2.5p a unit instead of 12p a unit.

An AC unit is typically a few kW.

Both gas. Electricity is inefficient.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

But you just said lightning blows them up.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

What a bloody farce. Same country, paperwork needed to move a bit.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

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e) from Charter/Spectrum Cable. At home, I have 60mbs from the same prov= ider. The hospital I use has extremely fast Internet service. I think I = measured 100mbs the last time I connected to the hospital WiFi during th= e day. Here at the center I've measured 60mbs at night. Me and my brothe= r have never had our Charter/Spectrum Cable Internet go out that I can r= ecall. The modems are plugged into backup power supplies along with our = computers so everything stays up even when the power blinks.?(?)?

I lost Internet service at my home. Back in January of 2015, the last ti= me I was home, the power was out in my neighborhood for 6 hours. I have = a number of UPS units rated from 350va to 1kw on my computer and network= gear and I never lost Internet service. I shut everything down except f= or the LED desk lamps which were plugged into 500va UPS units and the la= mps kept the house safely lit during the power outage. ?(?)?

down to the administrator's office and told them how to power cycle the = network equipment to get the system back up. It went down because of a p= ower blink. There are generators here at the center if the power goes ou= t but they need a UPS on the computer network equipment. I know you have= a lot of storms down there in the peninsula but we have them too up her= e in the hills. Perhaps the storms here aren't as severe as those down t= here between the Atlantic and The Gulf??(?)?

re nothing but trees. Whenever there is a bad storm, trees come down. Ba= ck in the 1990's me an my brother were installing a lot of NG powered Ge= nerac generators in wealthy neighborhoods like in the city of Mountain B= rook where all the rich Honkies live. The smallest was the 8kw with the = B&S 16hp air cooled and the larger gensets 10-20kw used a Turkish Fiat 4= cyl liquid cooled engine. The last Generac I installed was earlier in th= is century and it was equipped with Generac's own manufactured big twin = cyl air cooled engine. I've no experience with their newest gensets but = the most popular model seems to be their 22kw whole house backup model. = According to their site, they have a new model genset designed to work w= ith alternative energy or off the grid systems like solar power that kic= ks in when the batteries run down. That would be an interesting setup fo= r a home in the sticks with large solar panels and a big

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n hot humid weather like we have here in the Southeastern U.S., air cond= itioning is a necessity. The elderly or people with health problems woul= d be in bad shape without it. It gets so hot sometimes that the city wil= l open air conditioned auditoriums as cooling shelters for the homeless = or people who don't have AC in their homes. An American home may have a = number of appliances that use quite a bit of power. At my home I have 2 = refrigerator/freezers, a dishwasher, a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ce= ntral air conditioning, 2 microwave ovens and various appliances that pl= ug in as needed including my electric kettle. I have gas heat, a gas sto= ve and a gas water heater. I use LED and CFL bulbs throughout my home. M= y housemate who's taking care of my home said the electric bill was up d= uring the very humid +90=C2=B0F weather we've been having lately. The he= at can kill people. As I recall, you had a heat wave a while back =

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Heat is easy to cure. Take a shower.

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[gfretwell]

There are a lot of places here beyond the reach of the natural gas infrastructure and city water. We use what we can get. Actually electric heating of any kind is 100% efficient. No heat goes up the stack but there is some inefficiency getting the electricity to the customer. It is still cheaper than trucked in propane tho.

[James Wilkinson Sword]

That's the point. Converting the gas/oil/whatever to electricity is very very wasteful, as is transporting it to your house. In the UK, gas costs 2.5p a unit. Electricity costs 12p a unit.