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Larry Jaques wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Sorry, you'll have to find them yourself.

And be a heavy smoker. Nevertheless, ever try to sell a house with asbestos? And, mind you, I would be careful with all potential irritants. Note: The way the bad asbestos gets you is via its crystals, that are too big for macrophages to ingest and then dispose of. The macs get irritated and start secreting stuff that is full of degrading enzymes and oxidants. The body isn't designed to neutralize those substances in excess. It's a similar mechanism that gets you gout, the uric acid crystals do similar things. Why uric acid gets the joints, I don't know. The green parts of rhubarb contain a lot of calcium oxalate needle-like crystals, which are similarly toxic in a way.

Having been in the situation where I rented an apartment I was glad that I could ascertain and remedy the (minor) lead problems. Lead should be removed everywhere it can be removed. In most cases lead is not necessary.

I'm sure it works for you. My first treatment is iodine or the triple antibiotic plus antifungal.

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Han
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-MIKE- wrote in news:jt1lct$orj$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

I plan to dispose of the CFL's responsibly. Hope you all will too.

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Han

Why is it that people who want to erode others liberties can blindly trust the public to act responsibly when it supports their agenda, but not when it comes to things they don't like, such as guns, fatty/sugary foods, and my "carbon footprint?"

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-MIKE-

Not so sure you can, eh? ;)

Nowadays, with the rampant, totally-unsubstantiated fear about it? Good luck!

I even wear a mask to mow nowadays, and I ventilate heavily during painting or (re)finishing, blowing, etc.

I likely inhaled far too much asbestos as a young mechanic, blowing out brake drums and blowing off backing plates. THAT I don't do any longer.

Sounds nasty, but aren't we talking about an entirely bygone era? (where men were macho and didn't wear protection, and companies didn't offer it.)

AFAIC, lead is a non-concern. I'm not eating it (like some entirely unmonitored young urban children evidently were) and I don't plant my garden in it. I mask when sanding anything, leaded or not, and clean up the dust.

-- Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -- John Wayne

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Larry Jaques

Larry Jaques wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Seems that now you are a believer in the harm those substances can do ...

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Han

For a decade, I've been waiting for a mercury recycling station to open up anywhere near me. I pay $2 for a 4' fluor lamp. If I want to dispose of it safely and responsibly, I have to either drive to Portland (500mi RT) or pay a local company _$4_a_bulb_ to do so. FTS

I talked to the local sanitation company and they said either pay for the disposal or just break them up in the trashcan and they'll dump it. I have maybe 35-40 dead bulbs now. If someone wants to send $150 to me, I'll do the responsible thing, but I can't afford it myself.

As seldom as they go bad, my CFLs go in the trash. If they were accepted by the recycling people, I'd take them there, too. I recycle

-all- (OK, maybe 98%) paper, cardboard, cans, bottles, and plastic. Green waste and wood/ply/lumber scraps go to JoGro, metal is recycled.

Why are there only maybe 3 mercury recycling stations on the entire West Coast, with all the Greenies out here? Maybe they're busy screaming that the sky is filling with CO2.

And where are the Greenies when it comes to Fracking? Why do they only rant at the non-issues?

-- Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -- John Wayne

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Larry Jaques

+1 ;-)
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Steve Turner

My mercury containing lamps go into the fluorescent bulb recycling bin at the recycling center.

Reply to
Han

I know better than to allow particulates (including smoke) into my body any more.

I do -not- believe that any of those things (silicone, lead, asbestos, CO2) should have been banned, though. I'm not cowering in fear of any of them, 'cept maybe methyl mercury.

-- Truth loves to go naked. --Dr. Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1732

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Larry Jaques

ONLY if you have one within a reasonable distance from you. I'd drive

30 miles to Medford (60 RT) to dump mine, but I can't do 500 to Portland. I hate to dump them, and that's why I haven't done it yet, but...

-- Truth loves to go naked. --Dr. Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1732

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Larry Jaques

Larry Jaques wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Well, of course there is a difference between cowering in fear and being careful not to . Among the latter is not to needlessly spew it around.

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Han

Yeah those that have been through a rough hurricane don't say Party Time, the strong storm is serious business. It is mostly those that have been watching so-n-so Cantori on TWC and that are new to the coast that say Party Time. A lawn chair going down the street at 70 mph is really something you do not see unless it is a normal storm that just popped up. It is not unusual to see a U-Haul trailer going through the air, not on the ground, during a strong hurricane. The trailer I saw in Corpus Christi in the early 70's ended up half in and half out of a garage roof.

Think of a hundred tornadoes in the immediate vicinity and lasting 10~24 hours.

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Leon

Larry Jaques wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Then you need to ask Oregon how and where to dispose of them. Seems to me an environment-conscious state should have a solution.

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Han

You didn't answer my question. Please see above.

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Larry Blanchard

Poor baby ... bless her little pea picking heart. LOL

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Swingman

We recycle more than most people. Our trash bin only goes out about once every other week, and then it's most often because it smells to bad to leave another week. :-) Our recycling bin is so full, we're thinking of getting another.

But those CFL's are a joke. They are an inferior product that is waaaaaaaay worse for the environment than what the environmental harm they purportedly prevent. Plus they are already outdated by LEDs. Plus, they cost this country thousands of jobs that were sent to China and Mexico because we outlawed incandescents.

Don't even get me started on the corruption between the White House and GE concerning all these new green technologies. Job Czar, my ass.

While we're on the subject, someone did a study on the *true* carbon footprint of the average electric car and it was about double that of a gas one. Hilarious.

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-MIKE-

F#@k your question. I don't have to have all the answers on the tip of my tongue to know that man caused GW is bullshit. There are other people in the world who know the science and the specifics and I'll leave it to them to keep informing me. It's comforting to go through life knowing you don't have to have all the answers. It's also comforting to have a highly tuned BS filter. :-)

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-MIKE-

Swingman wrote in news:cNadnWQRAt_fD2nSnZ2dnUVZ_h- snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

is fine with me.

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Han

Actually, I feel sorry for her. As one who presses the wrong button 50% of the time when checking out at the grocery store because the clerks insist on saying "Please press the green button to approve the amount.", that apparently rules me out for ever being a politician.

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Swingman

Just curious... why do you hate to dump them?

They'll probably go to a landfill. Since about 1970, landfills have been required to be sealed entities. Whatever goes in can never come out, so what's the difficulty?

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HeyBub

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