interesting 3d cad program

What did she do with the $700? ;-)

Jack wrote in news:o460d7$onm$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

That's because the batch "language" evolved and couldn't get rid of the old cruft. I remember when it came out with DOS 6. Batch files were originally a way of running several commands in a row again and again without typing them, but they added control structures and had to fit it all within what command.com could understand. It's no wonder things were so bad.

I've written one somewhat complex shell script in Linux, so am not qualified to comment much on it. I wasn't really impressed, though... I should just look at how to get Perl to handle the shell stuff and rewrite that script.

Definitely the source of millions of reinstalls. Some people claim you have to reinstall Windows every 6 months. It's simply not true with Windows 7, I ran it for years before trying a reformat just to get rid of the extra little bits on my HD. Log files that aren't written to %temp% and deleted, etc.

My XP and 7 boxes are pretty stable. The crashes I have can be tracked down to: (a) Software crash (nothing the OS can do about it) (b) Driver Crash (less common, but boy are some drivers awful!) with OS crashes being rare.

Some of it is bad hardware, I took apart an old HP laptop to try to fix the headphone jack and one of the chips popped right off the board. How can anything cope when your environment is not sane? 1+1=10{2} unless there's excesive static then it's 1+1=11{2}?

You're absolutely right about the garbage and services starting up. Adobe and Oracle (owns Java) both install garbage if you are unfortunate enough to use their products. (Realtek and Synaptics include garbage you don't need as well.) A quick run of msconfig allows you to look at the start up tab and disable anything you don't need.

You have to start msconfig from the run dialog box, there's no shortcut on purpose. It's a power user program (most of it's gone in Windows 10), and it makes it really easy to screw up your system. It's also the best way to turn off startup programs.

Puckdropper

Leon wrote in news:ZM2dndIOKfFqEPvFnZ2dnUU7- snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

I regret my recent purchase of a HP printer. My old HP PSC1210a (does anyone have one laying around? I miss that printer!) was fantastic but the new one insists on cutting off the page numbers because it can't print on the bottom 1/2" of the page. Apparently it's a driver problem, but everything I tried doesn't work. Oh, and I've got 27 documents "in queue" that have been printed since the last time I started Windows. They just don't go away.

No more HP!!!

Puckdropper

Jack wrote in news:o4632r$4k4$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Did you know that Bill Gates hasn't been very involved with the company for some time? He was progressing out of day-to-day operations in 2006.

Puckdropper

Since the 90's my HP printers have always had a feed problem, the paper loaded at an angle and the print was not parallel to the top and bottom.

About 8 years ago we bought an expensive HP, about $500, thinking it would be our last. Ha Ha It broke just out of warranty and HP suggested buying a new one with no repair solution. I vowed, that was my last HP printer.

Also when we bought that last HP and installed the software it increased my boot time to just over 7 minutes, more than double the normal boot time. Tech service advised to uninstall and not install certain features. Great!

Puckdropper wrote in news:585efbc9$0$55839$c3e8da3$ snipped-for-privacy@news.astraweb.com:

For those who think Linux doesn't do "constant updates", guess again. Almost every distro is updated daily. You mentioned Raspberry Pi and if you did any work at all on the Raspbian system (a specialized Debian distribution) you would be doing apt-get update/apt-get upograde and see that the software has updates EVERY day. The only difference is that Linux users are not required to update their system (exception of Windows 10 Professional can turn off auto updates), but there must be a reason for updates. If you don't want to upate your system, you will have to live with the results. Your call. The thing is most Windows users are more interested in using it, not maintaining it.

Jack wrote in news:o40k2j$l61$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

SO where is OS2 today?

Please preface yor remarks with "This is just my opinion....

I have bben in the computer industry since 1964. There are things portale evices do better than PC's, minis or even mainframes and vice-versa. I have worked on systems ranging from Cray , Control Data scalar and vector systems, mid range systems that did trajectory prediction at Cape Canaveral during the Gemini and Apollo programs (I was the data acquisition lead analyst for the Apollo 11 launch). I have worked on fire control systems onboard submarines, and embedded systems for development of the F-22 program and designed the System Program Office network built around both PC and Mac platforms back in

I have a wide range of eexperience and can sys that statements such as yours are themselves garbage, because there is a far broader spectrum of computational platforms than what has been discussed here, and I assure you there is no best one out there.

Especially games and graphics. Seems like many third party software makers had a 'better idea' and circumvented the Microsoft protocols. Apple was much more stringent.

I won't buy anything but HP printers. Got a new wireless Envy at home and love it. First printer that works with all our computers and phones. I can print on it from anywhere that has an internet connection.

We have eight of them running trouble free at work. Got rid of a Samsung when it dies.

My company issue HP Elitebook is actually pretty decent. Keyboard could be better but otherwise I don't have any complaints about it that are the fault of the machine--for the work we do we need two more cores and another gigahertz but that's not the machine's fault, that's the fault of the people who ordered it.

When it goes off-lease I wouldn't mind buying it--unfortunately the company doesn't give us that option.

Probably bought a Festool hair dryer.

Sketchup on Android? That's news (though not at all interesting either way). I have a Windows tablet that's next to useless for Sketchup. It's really why I bought the new computer (with a 14" 2K internal display and external 27" 4K display).

I'd like to see that. I just bought a 7" tablet for $100, and it was subsidized as an e-reader. It must have a really crappy display.

You keep saying that but have provided no evidence of your absurd claim.

Utter nonsense.

She shouldn't have bought junk.

Modem? What century are you living in? This laptop boots Win10 in about ten seconds. It's almost not worth putting it to sleep.

I came to tha conclusion nine years ago (priner still works but will probably be donated soon). Their software just, flat, sucks. It makes Windows look lean and mean, by comparison.

snipped-for-privacy@notreal.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I bought my first HP printer in 2003. So looks like between ~2003 and ~

Puckdropper

My HP1022 laser printer has been a great printer (I don't have it connected to a network). I just looked up that they started selling in, on Amazon, in 2001. My understanding is that some/many/all HP printers now no longer take 3rd party toner cartridges. Are they making a good (i.e. very good) printer that does take 3rd part toner cartridges these days?

Bill

I had a rather large 8800 Altair with video terminal (glass TTY), TTY, Queme 132 column Daisy Wheel printer - could print a square (1") solid black with a period. Good graphic control... video graphics board and tube and A-D, D-A plus an interrupt board and serial and parallel boards. I used it to catalog books, work up my grades (college prof) and got my beloved to do a news letter on it with graphics. All back in the 70's. I had 8" hard sector Pertec drives, dual digital tape drives. I was getting a Pertec reel to reel and Hard disk when the IBM came out (with Schlumberger by then).

I looked at getting a job at Tandy Computer - but never went back once I learned their business process. They had three teams to come up with a computer and one team would win. They would be the managers and the rest would work for them or not at all. They had 2 suicides by the time I went in.

Mart> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 11:40:32 PM UTC-5, Martin Eastburn wrote: >

It went straight back into her (our) credit card fund.

HP was the king of test equipment. I'll never understand why they pipmed out the HP name for cheap consumer electronics. Now when I hear "HP" I think of plastic, Agilent? who's that?

-BR

So you originally bought her a gift with money that was her's to start with? What a guy! ;-)

(Please - puuuleeeze - note the wink.)