The TVs tend not to understand the speech and do the same as apple and
M$ ie. the upload it to a server for recognition.
So if you want to listen in you can hack the server as long as the user
is using the voice recognition.
If they have disabled voice recognition in the menus then you need to
hack the TV.
That's good because that's what I thought too.
So going by ARW and TNP you must be wrong too.
I like the way tim posts saying that you can't hide from being seen on
the router and snips the bits where I say how it can be done.
I suppose that's the way it goes, some just like to pretend they know
If you are spying you don't need instant recognition of what was being
said. You can spend a lot longer post processing a recording using
different algorithms to build a composite 'picture' of the conversation.
Yes. You can spend a lot of time writing all this special software to bug
all our TVs. You can then spend a lot of money capturing everything that
is said anywhere near them. Then spend even more time and money
deciphering everything said. In every language too, obviously.
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
Why do you suppose they collect all SMS messages, to do nothing with them?
Why did we have to build in ways of remotely intercepting calls on SystemX?
If you are a person of interest then the cost is not really going to matter.
If you are of no interest then you don't cost much.
Well right there is one of the big areas of debate. There are many that
advocate collecting everything all the time, in the hope that it might
be useful later - much like the way they claim CCTV "prevents" crime -
when in reality all it might do is make it easier to solve after its
There are many who would like to data mine that collected information
and draw value from it (be it intelligence, or marketing)
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 15:31:15 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Store and forward. Once forwarded why keep them? Same with historical
location data, the system needs to know where a phone is *now* to
work. It doesn't need to know where a phone was yesterday, let alone
last month or year.
On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:59:23 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I believe the exploit required physical access to the TV. So spooks would
need to break in to set it up. (Which is nothing untoward. As Peter
Wright said in Spycatcher: "we bugged and burgled our way through
When my (Android) phone is on charge*, if you say "Google" in a normal
voice, the mic manages to pick it up and trigger "OK Google" - gave me a
hell of a start when it first did it.
*There's a setting in Google Search for "voice control","OK Google", "On
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