I don't need to practice; I reverse into spaces all the time, I hardly
ever drive in - I even reverse into the drive (and so does SWMBO) even
though we live on a quiet street not a main road.
I think we have our wires crossed here. I made the comment about "rear
wheel steering" which you called "silly". I then asked you for your
explanation of why reversing into a space was easier; I didn't mean why
do you think reversing is better than driving in forwards, I meant what
do you think the reason it is better since you obviously don't think
it's having what is effectively rear wheel steering. Perhaps if I'd
accented 'you' in "how do *you* explain..." it would have been clearer.
You mean one of these?
A bloke down the road had one when I was a lad - we all thought he was a
posh git (probably because it had 4 headlights). Nice car though.
Can I add to those the people who drive up to a roundabout, stop and then
look to see if anything is coming. If only they'd look as they're
approaching then they'd be able to make better progress by not having to
stop and then set off again.
That's not just limited to a few women though, there's a multi storey car
park not too far from here that has 3 bays between each pillar and you can
guarantee that the first people to park will always go for the middle bay
and drive in forwards. To me it's easier to back in to one next to the
pillars as there's less chance of anyone knocking doors into you and you get
an easier drive out of the space because you're facing the right way.
Don't see any of that round here (Lincolnshire) because we don't have any
motorways (I lie a little there, there is some about 60m away), which raises
another question, how are we supposed to learn how to use them? I didn't
even get out of a 30mph limit on my driving test never mind getting onto
anything like a busy dual carriageway or the like. It's laughable really
when the powers that be decide that the current driving test is capable of
determining whether a person is safe to be on the roads or not.
Firstly I don't break speed limits (within the limits of measurement),
the mileage I do I couldn't afford to pick up the points, Licence
still blemish free, and I don't make any excuses for those who do. I
currently drive 22,000 miles per year (440 miles today) and have been
driving since 1967, odd years it has been up to 40K.
IME people intentionally driving 20 mph over the limit are simply
likely to continue doing just that. It's what they do and they have a
whole range of reason . People in the wrong lane / not indicating
/hesitating/puzzling over their task come into a different category
called "Incompetants", they are incapable of doing any better, I've
seen about 40 instances today. Most of them seem to adopt abnormal
postures sitting at the wheel sitting bolt upright gripping the wheel,
white knuckled, hanging on for dear life, and have facial features
that would be taken as indicating "Low grade intelligence" (Think Mr
Bean) elsewhere. A great many simply don't know where they are, or
where they are going (seriously).
For the PC brigade these terms were taken directly from my Uni. course
Do you also laugh at your own jokes?
No, they aren't racing. There is a definition of racing. They might
well chose to drive fast, you might not like it, it might be over the
limit, but it's not racing, which is a different offence.
That is very unusual, but by no means impossible. On the Leeds ring
road near Elland Road, on "Football" days ring road traffic gets a
single green phase lasting *4 seconds* every 2nd iteration and there
4 car phases and an all stop pedestrian phase every iteration.
Football traffic seems to get a couple of minutes of green phase.
Have it changed.
Indeed, they would not.
But you said "Blithely" now justify it.
All in all, rather too much detail for a usenet post methinks.
I see you do too. :-)
And, in all honestly I think you should campaign to have the speed
limit over the whole lot reduced to 30 mph, on account of the hidden
dips USW ... And a pedestrian crossing of some sort created somewhere
where it would be safe(st). We have campaigned for, & got a Pelicon
crossing, a school crossing warden, and 2 speed cameras (for this
Bear in mind tho that the local police said that when they put a
mobile camera on the A643 outside the school entrance all the speeders
they caught were locals. :-)) What was it Preacher mend thyself?
I'm trying to work out where you are.
The planners want us to have pillows (or is it cushions?) and 'gated'
streets with a 20mph limit. I'm all for it and assumed everyone would be but
they're not. My neighbour even said he opposed it because it would bring
down the value of his property.
Which describes our estate. And our street is narrow and few people park
their cars in their drives, yet drivers still drive up and down at far more
than the 30 limit. People have been injured. Worse, people park their cars
on the pavements, thus forcing pedestrians (yes, there are quite a lot
because there's a nursery at the bottom of the street) to walk on the road.
There are quite a lot near us. The other week I drove along Spencer Place
and it was a pleasure.
The item you mention was in the streets where one of our daughters lives, it
was a wonderful success and subsequent traffic calming has worked, it's a
pleasure to walk round the Methleys now. There was another reason for the
streets being congested, that's been eliminated after community action. It
took a long time but it was worth it.
No, you're wrong. It was born of desperation and achieved its purpose in the
end. It was also a lot of fun.
No, it's daft to say that.
We've had an Escort and we have a scooter. I've never had a problem with any
vehicle on the highest bumps (the ones at Templenewsam are the most vicious
I've ever seen anywhere) because when we see them we slow right down. That
is, they achieve their aim.
I doubt it. We don't want to have to repair vehicles for the sake of saving
a few seconds.
They shouldn't be doing that anyway.
In truth I've never seen that claim. Not for 3-4 year olds.
So do I. But boy racers protest. Middle aged boy racers say that they damage
their vehicles, that their civil rights are infringed, that they haven't
time to slow down in their busy lives.
I say that if vehicles couldn't do more than 20 mph they'd be happy driving
at that speed - providing the limit was 10 mph.
I've spent quite a lot of time with the planners about this matter. I wanted
them to remove the tarmac from the cobbles at the bottom of the street, one
of them said it would damage vehicles which were travelling at more than
20mph. But if the limit is 20mph ... ???????
Incidentally the cobbles were covered with black only when a Labour Lord
Mayor was having his induction service at our local church. It was decided
that U1 couldn't be risked. It had been OK for hoi polloi until then.
I reckon that when - if? - the traffic calming is undertaken here it could
be a Good Thing because they might fill in the holes in the road at the same
time. If they don't they'll have to answer to me.
The highway code is a "guide". If there are no other vehicles, and you
takes the shortest route across the roundabout (not over), like doing a
chicane, and not indicated, then you have not broken any law, as you are not
reckless and driving dangerously. Do it when there are cars all over the
place and you have broken a law.
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a> takes the shortest route across the roundabout (not over), like doing aa> chicane, and not indicated, then you have not broken any law, as you are nota> reckless and driving dangerously.
a) Just because it is not illegal, that does not mean it is not
stupid. People who assume there are no other vehicles around are an
accident waiting to happen.
b) Watch the traffic at a roundabout in full daylight in busy
condiftions and count how many vehicles indicate and change lane
I used to have to cross near a roundabout where for whatever reason
the council hadn't put a controlled crossing, so got a pretty good
idea how many drivers have any clue about things like indicators.
Later they did put in a crossing, which gave me an ideal opportunity
to learn how many drivers pay any attention to traffic lights.
Lifetime bans and car confiscation for the first serious or the second
minor breach of the `guide' would make life better for everyone sane.
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They do that already.
jr> Hey why not tie it into sat nav and GPS speed sensing etc, you couldjr> have the car automatically shop you the moment you go over the speedjr> limit.
Don't be such a soppy liberal. A poison dart shooting out of the
steering wheel would seem to be the absolute minimum.
jr> That would pretty soon get everyone off the road - youjr> included. Fancy that?
Wouldn't affect me.
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"John Rumm" wrote
| Hey why not tie it into sat nav and GPS speed sensing etc, you could
| have the car automatically shop you the moment you go over the speed
| limit. That would pretty soon get everyone off the road - you included.
| Fancy that?
| (As with most suggestions of this type, they amount to nothing more than
| unenforceable nonsense when placed under scrutiny)
Didn't Nostradamus write that, a long time in the future, iron would float?
Then we put a man on the moon.
Then we started London congestion charging.
It's only hard until it hasn't been done.
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