Ah. Don't have time to read EVERY reference sadly.
That seems not inconsistent with common sense. However it still does not
prove. let alone imply, a causal connection.
It could be that it coincided with an unusually hot summer, and a world
cup victory, with more drink pedestrians and cyclists staggering around
I always like the old question 'how can the incidence of drawn test
matches affect the size of tree ring growth' It turns out they are both
likely due to unusually wet summers.
An interesting statistic, that sadly,proves nothing. What, for example,
is the standard deviation on pedestrian and cyclist death in the years
prior to and subsequent of this survey?
If anything, it might show that motorists who feel secure (i.e. by
adhering slavishly to speed limits) are more likley to mow down pedestrians.
There. I can spin it as well as any BBC reporter or government
I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT DOSSIER!!!
Just as long as you also put a notice on your car to paramedics/Police etc
to not waste the additional NHS resources on patching you up after an
accident. Though - that's assuming you survive any crash... ;)
Oh, and make sure you turn off any air-bag that you may have fitted.
Airbags are only safe if you're using a seatbelt. Not having a seatbelt may
well blow/burn your face off in even of an accident happening and you being
thrown forward onto the wheel.
Personally, I would be less reckless and just drive safer and more
carefully. If you need to not wear a seatbelt just so that you drive more
carefully, then you're a bad driver. There's plenty of good drivers out
there who wear a belt, and also watch out for pedestrians and other
vulnerable road users.
Generally, as a whole, maybe people will drive more less carefully after
wearing belts - but that shouldn't mean that individuals who are aware of
this fact, and also try to drive safely, can't buck that trend.
You may also find that if they re-did the research now, things may be
different. Initially, maybe people did drive more dangerously after
seatbelts were required - but now, seatbelts are as much a part of driving
as checking the car's out of gear before starting or adjusting your mirrors.
Incidentally, the only people I see around here who don't wear seatbelts are
the boy racers zooming up and down the highstreet/main roads at
significantly above the speed limit. I must admit though, I have little
concern about them not wearing their belts - karma comes to mind... ;)
Though of course - that's a wrong attitude to take and it'll be people like
my wife and her friends who will have to patch them up after any accidents.
Th point is I am reducing the probability of having an accident in the
first place and thus reducing the probability of others being injured.
Unfortunately, it's not under your control. I suggest you look at either of
the references I gave you.
Everyone behaves the same. It's got nothing to do with whether I'm a "bad
driver" or not.
Indeed. And if they aren't wearing one, they are even more cautious. It's
No. That's the point. They don't. They drive less carefully.
Unfortunately, that's exactly what it means.
Nope. cf recent identical effect demonstrated with German taxi drives and
The point is, your wife and her friends are going to see anyone because of
me precisely because I don't wear a belt when driving.
Can I once again suggest you look up either of the references I gave above
since at the moment you seem to have a very shakey and inadequate
understanding of what's involved?
Correct. Whatever such individual driver "consciously" tries, the fact
remains that she will drive less carefully because of the aforesaid "risk
compensation" - generally known as the risk homeostasis effect.
Thus by not wearing a seat belt, I am increasing the probability of serious
injury or death to myself. BUT, I am reducing the probability of having an
accident in the first place and thus both decreasing the likelihood of ever
being involved in an accident and thus I am reducing the risk to other road
At the end of your last post! Quoting the end of this/your post:
"BUT, I am reducing the probability of having an accident in the first
Anyway - I dispute the fact that you claim that a driver, by putting on a
seat belt, cannot drive as well as he would have done had he not worn a
seatbelt - *even if he consciously tries to*
I could agree with everything you said had it not been for you not accepting
that a driver can consciously drive carefully whilst wearing a seatbelt.
Maybe its best to agree to disagree... ;)
Very Good. Why do you think that says not what it says but instead "not
wearing a seatbelt will stop you from having an accident in the first
place?" It doesn't say that it says: "reducing the probability of having an
accident in the first place" not lowering that probability to zero. It
doesn't "stop you having an accident". It merely reduces the probability of
you having one.
What amazes me about those who feel that they are safer without belts
(because THEY are driving safely) is that they forget that there are others
out there who may not be driving safely, and can ram into them or otherwise
cause an accident.
All the evidence I have seen says this isn't true. The fatalties are merely
transferred (because of seat belts) from car drivers to other road users.
So what is your source for this claim?
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