If you have a company car then your pay a lot less tax on a low CO2
car - I got a £60/pm tax cut from April 2002. There's no exact
correlation between CO2 and power but in general CC drivers will pay
a lot more for power (higher percentage tax band x higher price)
Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk
Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm
Not quite true. I was insured with them and dove a Beetle at the time.
Drove it into the side of an E Type Jaguar who injudiciously attempted
to cross the road in front of me. We were both insured with them.
My memory is that the other insurance companies convinced the
government to keep raising the bar, (i.e.) the amount of funds
required as indemnity to run an insurance company, to the point were
the fledgling business couldn't comply.
It always made more sense to me to insure the driver rather than the
Paul Mc Cann
So, as I own a small business, nothing to do with electrical work, I can
apply to the FSB and will be therefore be able to self-cert electrical work
in my own home? I doubt it, somehow.
Why is this a problem? Incompetent people, perhaps, but qualification is
not a guarantee of competence, and lack of qualification is most certainly
not an indication of incompetence.
So does this make a house that does not conform to current regs unsaleable?
That kind of makes the wiring regs retrospective legislation.
email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk
I agree that on a bog standard installation any chimp could do it - the
difference is knowing which is a bog standard and which isn't - and why.
When I took the 16th edition one of the questions required you to work out
the size of an earth conductor. The answer appeared to be a rediculous size
but when you factored in the losses / grouping / temperature etc. you could
see why it was necessary. How many unqualified diy'ers would have fitted the
It shouldn't, the (electrical) regs are neither retrospective or
Several points in one... (several contributors)
In fact in Britain we deal in pounds and kilos, and have done for a
very long time. Pounds are one of our standard universal measures.
Britain has used pounds for a _very_ long time, and still does, very
Official being the word (meaning 'of office'). Our real world standard
measures of weight are kilos and pounds, but our officialdom seems to
have become estranged from that somehow. There is no moral superiority
in kilos over pounds, and local government should not be attempting to
enforce something that simply has no value. In truth his selling in
pounds was (in itself) a non issue.
The _real_ idiot in Sunderland should not have wasted public money and
time, and destroyed the local governments credibility by prosecuting
the market trader who was going about his normal honest and decent
Government relies on public goodwill to work, and if they start
playing that kind of game round here the goodwill's gonna evaporate
quickly. Then when they ask for the public's assistance they get told
Unfortunately this has happened in several areas with the police, and
the result is high crime in some places, because the public simply
wont co-operate there. Government bodies need to remember what theyre
there for, because public goodwill does matter. It matters because
when that goes, everyone suffers.
Changing cable insulation colours, from red/black to blue/brown.
This isnt a serious safety issue. A 1mm2 CPC is sufficient to pop any
RCD (or lighting ring wire fuse), even when uncompliant with regs.
You're confusing regs with the sort of safety level that is necessary
in private dwellings.
To assess the relevance of different measures one has to look at the
consequences of not carrying them out: a smaller than regs CPC will
still work effectively.
Dont forget what we see is only the beginning. Obviously they're not
introducing all the control at once.
Exactly. The way I see it there will be more people refusing to carry
out work due to the restrictions imposed by the new regulations. That
will leave fewer practitioners in the industry. Those that are left
will most likely charge more. End result could be that the end user
decides to do the job himself, without any regard to the regs at all.
We could easily see more deaths and injury result from the stupid
application of these regulations.
Do you need a handyman service? Check out our
web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk
Deaths due to electrical installation faults in the home runs at
around 5 per year, and falling. Deaths due to other accidental
incidents in the home runs at around 2350 per year, most of which
are from slips trips and falls, and although I have no figures,
I'll but many more than 5 of these are already caused by tripping
over extension leads.
Fortunately, I doubt anyone will take any notice of the new regs,
and people will continue to improve the safety of their homes.
This, combined with the Window regs and some other upcoming
Building regs increasingly discredit the building regs as a whole,
which is regrettable. I spoke with my Building Control department
when I did my response to the proposals, and they had this view.
Unfortunately, they were not able to go on record, but they did
privately support me, completely agreed with my response, and
wished me the best of luck.
The way these new regulations read and by the advice I've had, it is still
OK to do DIY electrical jobs in your own property, but if you want to carry
out any commercial installations or alterations, then you'll need the
services of a qualified and registered tradesman. Or am I reading and being
advised wrongly ?
Anyway, it boils down to competency of doing the job, as Corgi registration
currently is, and if or when you come to sell or rent the property you'll
need an approved certificate to satisfy surveyors and solicitors reports.
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
HomeOwnersHub.com is a website for homeowners and building and maintenance pros. It is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here.
All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.