"Doctor Drivel" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
You do talk some complete bollocks.
The one I drove was lethargic at best, unless you thrashed it like a ginger stepchild, at which point it was unpleasantly loud. I averaged
News to me as well. Can we have a reference?
A Prius diesel ought to be seriously efficient. Unlike the petrol one.
Andy
Andy Champ gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
Looks like the first diesel-hybrids will be from PSA - the 308 & C4 HDi hybrids are thought to be hitting the markets in about a year.
Just 'cos it's sun and planet doesn't make it not a gearbox.
No mechanical clutch *is* a worthwhile feature, especially to owners of dual-mass flywheels. But I'm not convinced that two electric motors and a darnn great battery pack count as simpler than a clutch.
Andy
The petrol Prius us seriously efficient. The new model returns 60mpg, US mixed cycle about 70mpg around London. It uses a sort of Atkins cycle.
Sensible people. Diesel engines stink in all respects.
Read the explanation I posted.
Read the explanation I posted. The Prius has:
1) small massive power/weight electric motor, 2) an IC engine 3) a power splitter which is a simple, small planetary gear cluster. 4) Battery packAn diesel IC engine has:
1) noisy, heavy and large engine 2) large power sapping in-line transmission 3) Clutch 4) Dual-mass flywheel 5) electric motor to spin the engine 6) battery pack 7) turboNo contest, the Prius wins hands down. The Prius tops the JD Power survey for the most reliable car. They are super reliable and super quite and emits far, far less emissions. Fantastic!!!
I wonder who all those people parked on the M25/M6 are?
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I think the time has come to repeat part of what I first posted on 1st December last which is a quote from a FOI request.
"The Government Car and Despatch Agency (GCDA), an executive Agency of the Department for Transport, operates a fleet 104 Toyota Prius. The Agency does monitor the fuel consumption of its vehicles. Its latest report shows that the average fuel consumption of the Toyota Prius fleet was 42.69 mpg. The worst example is an average of 32.45 mpg and the best example is an average of 51.49 mpg."
Not exactly brilliant performance is it.
The MGB wasn't brilliant either when it was introduced in 1962 and was even more sluggish by the time it finally died in 1980 but even the slowest was good for a top speed of 98mph. Dribbles 85 mph max is way out but paradoxically probably a good deal more accurate than most of the nonsense he spouts.
I wonder if his MGB had a DB numberplate. :-)
Yep the whole 60 odd million of us. And the Prius does well in bumper to bumper traffic.
It doesn't tally with others - the US official test was at 60mpg. The Prius doesn't kill the plant. And is swish...................
Roger drive a tractor - you deserve each other.
Prius drivers saving up for new batteries?
Oh, but it was. You could choose diesel or petrol models.
That was the Mk1. The Mk2 is petrol only, as will be the Mk3. The Mk3 can also be charged from AC mains, which should make it a lot more useful - and cheaper to run in town.
The Chevy Volt is playing catch-up.
The Mk 3 is not chargeable from the mains from what I understand. It was introduced last week. It has roof solar panel.
It is driven by electric motors only.
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When Autocar tested the original Prius, their overall consumption including performance testing was 24 mpg. More telling, their suburban route test that all their cars do came out at under 40 mpg - and worse than a BMW 320d which is a much faster car.
In the US Toyota was forced to change the overall consumption figure they claimed from approx 60 mpg to 45 after complaints.
I had one of the early ones on loan for a week. It was good on fuel in heavy town traffic - but absolutely hopeless on the open road and unpleasant to drive. If I were in the market for a town car *only* I'd want something very much smaller than it.
So it replaces the gearbox with electric motors, a battery pack and clever electronics. Nice and simple, that.
Toyota claim that. They were forced to change their claims on the last model.
More lies.
The reason there aren't diesel hybrids is they don't show the same sort of 'savings' in fuel on paper that the Prius does.
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