PAT test and a H&S report

[Graham.]

I've yet to see a Europlug with a fuse.

[Dave Liquorice]

I'm pretty sure anything over two sockets falls under the regs as applied to fixed wiring spurs. ie. more than two sockets (two singles or one dual) has to be fused. Certainly the only unfused cable mounted sockets I've seen on sale in the shed etc have been singles or doubles.

[meow2222]

if they'd rather have appliances failed by you than fixed on the spot for £1 when needed I'd say they're being a tad short sighted. But that's thei r call. Its your call to understand that and sell it to them.

NT

[Fredxxx]

It's an awful lot easier to return with no questions asked if you just use an adapter.

[Tim Watts]

Where do people get these ideas?

[John Rumm]

In fact I think I found the one I was thinking of, but its actually the requirement for the minimum annulus around a pin on a plug rather than area round the hole on a socket.

So I retract my comment - they do not fail to meet BS1363 for that reason...

Normally because the 84mm high form factor of a standard face plate puts the earth pin too near the centre for the plug to be able to "reach".

[Fredxxx]

Doesn't that rather depend on the wording of the warranty?

If I had altered a product and returned it under warranty, I might expect some questions, or even a refusal.

A warranty is not the same as returning goods under the SOGA.

[george]

[charles]

I'm sure teh SOGA doesn't permit a return if you've "modified" it.

[charles]

because you've modified the product

[ARW]

Is the product a plug?

[Fredxxx]

On occasions yes, for most of the time it will form part of the product.

[Chris French]

In message , charles writes

Depends why you are returning it.

[john james]

[Tim Watts]

I'd expect cutting a plug off under DSR (as was called) to invite a refusal to accept return.

Not a warranty.

[Tim Watts]

Barely.

And how does this differ to an appliance installed ina kitchen, supplied with a plug but the location is equipped with an FCU flex outlet? You don't have a lot of choice and if it went to court, I would expect some common sense to prevail.

[john james]

Nope, its determined by the law, the wording of the warranty.

Not with the mains plug.

Still has relevant law that is applicable.

[john james]

Legally you haven't as far as your legal rights to warranty are concerned.

[Chris French]

Yes but DSR is just part of it, if you are returning a product because it say has developed a fault then I wouldn't expect it to make a difference (unless realted to the fault in some way)

[PeterC]

If the fitteed plug isn't suitable for a 13A outlet, surely it shouldn't be supplied like that (unless it's a shaver). That's why I used an adaptor, but I wouldn't have done straight into the ring - it's in a fused strip.