OT: EU and Canada

[bert]

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Well you seem to be happy with the deal that has stuffed the whole of the UK

[Tim Streater]

Then we wouldn't make the deal, would we Den? That ever occur to you?

[Tim Streater]

The EU has spent 7 years without success trying to reduce complex tariff rules that already exist (in this case between EU and Canada). How long d'ye think it'll take them to *add* tariff rules where none exist. Much easier to leave well alone.

[dennis]

So now you think its hard to make a free trade deal then?

[dennis]

They can just apply the same tariff rules that they already apply to the RotW to the UK, that would be bad enough.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

You think? Nice that you have so much confidence in our politicians. But with things going as they are we'll be desperate to get any kind of deal at all by the time we've left the EU.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The evidence of just how long it takes to achieve between any other countries in the world you care to name.

All countries worth trading with will already have deals with others. Which are bound to effect a late commer like the UK trying to muscle in. In exactly the same way as agreements we had with some commonwealth countries had to change when we joined the EEC.

Expressing interest isn't an agreement.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The optimism of some. Is just totally incredible.

[Plowcunt fucker]

Nope, Britain will be free to trade under the WTO rules, just like all of Canada, the USA, New Zealand, China, Japan, Australia, India etc etc etc all do fine.

Sure, something more would certainly be useful, but clearly not necessary.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I do wonder if some of them have the remotest idea. If the EU were willing to make concessions to the UK as regards border controls and immigration, they'd have done so during the Cameron negotiations before BREXIT. To give the UK free trade access to the EU after we leave and without any other conditions would require a clime down of the magnitude that is just dreaming.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Right. After finally leaving, the EU gives us the same free trade agreement we already have with them. We make a new trade deal with say India. Now any Indian goods imported to the UK will by nature have free access to the rest of the EU. Just stick a 'made in the UK' label somewhere on them.

Am I missing something?

[Fredxxx]

I can't believe you have said that.

Do you not understand that it was because Cameron could not get any consensus on immigration that we're in this situation?

Don't you think he tried given his pledges?

Or was he simply a lying Remoaner?

[Plowcunt fucker]

Yep, that that doesn?t happen with any of these.

[pamela]

Good luck with getting the EU to accept that!

We're going to need some serious proposals rather than suggestions which are going to make us a laughing stock.

[pamela]

It seemed to me immigration was the big emotional issue. On the other hand many of Cameron's backbenchers are Little Englanders and were probably driven more by worries about sovereignty.

[Tim Streater]

Some deals we'll make, others we won't. Should be obvious, even to you Den.

[Tim Streater]

It took them 7 years not to manage a deal with Canada, what makes you think they'll be applying tariffs to us at any sort of rate?

[Tim Streater]

Why? No bilateral deal can affect any other.

[whisky-dave]

Strange that the EU can stop meat imports to the EU but not steal imports.

[charles]

Stealing imports is what happens in 3rd world counties. I doubt if the EU would want to do that.