electric cars and frosty roads

I can go with 90 or 110 but will it stand up in court? :-)

OK Thank you.

In article snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)" snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk> writes

But very good on ice or compacted snow or wet grass downhill.

I believe in Ireland the speed limit signs all have "kph" to make it abundantly clear that "110" does not mean mph.

The VC10 was exactly what the market wanted, STOL performance on rough airstrips and decent range. Sadly the market was simply UK commonwealth only

To be precise it was what BOAC wanted; to be able to atke off, fully laden, from Nairobi in the middle of the day.

Nope, by the designers. It?s a very decent design, but not what many airlines wanted.

That?s wrong.

Hardly any of the market actually wanted STOL performance on rough airstrips and f*ck all of the market that did want that had the money for new modern aircraft.

And f*ck all of that ever bought any.

It never was STOL, but they did manage to fly them out of Brooklands - just.

It was what the marketeers said the market wanted but BOAC tried to get out of buying it.

In article snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk>, charles snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk> writes

So why did they try to get out of buying it?

In article snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, Fred snipped-for-privacy@hotnail.com writes

Exactly, nicely put.

In article snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, Fred snipped-for-privacy@hotnail.com writes

I think you are confusing marketing with sales.

See above.

at a guess: the market changed between the time they issued the spec and the time the plane was ready for service. happens all the time.

Nope, it was the marketeers that got it wrong when they decided that there was a big enough market for a very large aircraft that would move a very large number of people at one time and that that was more important than more choice frequency wise for the those paying for seats.

And they never did understand that the airlines don?t like 4 engined aircraft with their higher costs anymore.

See above.

It's an excellent aircraft to be a passenger on, and far preferable to the alternatives.

Yes, but so is the A380 and both were a commercial disaster.

That?s overstated.

In article snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk>, charles snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk> writes

Policy change to buy Boeing IIRC

So I believe. Bit like Jags v Mercs/BMWs.