I have set the default to a low level comparable to top gear engine braking in an ICE vehicle. Most of the time this suits me. I will tweak the setting as I drive as circumstances demand though.
Indeed, different levels of regen work best in different circumstances. It?s very easy to change ?on the fly? using paddle controls on my car.
Tim
They do, but that?s only invoked on my car when using the actual brake pedal. Just lifting off the throttle whilst on snow or ice with a high regen setting can induce slip, in exactly the same way that engine braking could.
Tim
No, he really doesn?t understand. Putting the ?brakes on? as you say when you lift off can at times be very useful around town. It?s not a fault. It?s not bad design. It?s *different* design.
Tim
That would seem to be an absurd design fault!
well it shouldn't
+1
But don't need the vast weight of the batteries in a pure EV.
I've had this car 2 years. Never had the ABS activate yet. Last car which was similar, once.
ABS really is a last resort for that last 1% of panic braking. Not an everday tool.
Having automatic braking when you no longer want to proceed at a steady pace seems like something thought up by learner drivers. Or geeks who don't drive at all.
:-)
Or needs to visit an optician, or both.
Using regen mode means you can modulate the vehicle's speed with the accelerator. You can speed up, hold speed or slow gently ('braking' gives the wrong impression) depending on where you are holding the pedal. It's not a choice between go and stop and you don't always want to be in regen mode.
You're reading comments about EVs from an ICE driver's experience/point of view. They're different. To better understand, you should try a test drive once we are more easily able to do such things.
I can't think of any circumstance in which I'd want the act of lifting right off the accelerator pedal to be a signal for braking (apart from the very slight engine braking and air resistance). I want to chose when and by how much I apply the brakes. Whether those brakes are frictional or regenerative (or a combination) is immaterial.
Trains often have a single power/brake lever but they have an important difference: there is a "neutral" position in between minimum power and minimum braking, and then from there you push one way for power and the other way for braking. What I've never understood is why trains have discrete steps of power or braking, rather than continuously variable over a range. You would think that there would be some speeds which needed power that was somewhere between two notches, and so the driver would have to keep alternating the position, whereas in a car he'd choose a position in between. Likewise for braking.
I think it's time to give-up with this thread because of the people who are expressing attitudes which are not based on facts or experience and seem unable to accept that they might be wrong or that car designers might know a bit about how to design their products. I don't think it's deliberate trolling, just biased and inflexible thinking coupled with an inability to educate themselves from the huge amount of relevant info on the web.
Look it's just DIFFERENT. Not better not worse EXCEPT that people transitioning from an IC car will need to adjust to it which is why is should NOT be made the 'default setting'.
And since there is no difference in consumption from the regeneration no matter which pedal is used to select it, it's almost a pointless choice to give drivers.
All other things being equal I would *like* to have a car that speeds up on the right pedal, slows down on the left and is in 'cruise control' when neither are pressed.
I accept I am probably in a minority of one
Look at how brakes are applied. They are air brakes mainly. Hard tro apply smoothly.
electric acceleration used to be done by selecting various discrete windings before transistors smoothed the way to progressive throttle
I think it boils down to two points of view,
When Ceefax was first developed, Wireless World's editorial said "Very nice
- now find a use for it".
And no one did.
It just wasn't good enough.
But now we have a super ceefax - the world wide web. And it IS good enough.
Still not convinced. One pedal I can see. But having the same one for go and partial stop doesn't appeal, since you'll still have the brake one. It would seem like driving an IC engined car around in a low gear so you always had engine braking.
This thread was started by an EV driver who lost control due to what others seem to think an excellent idea.
Take it up with him.
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