Re: OT: Roll Up Your Sleeves

And lost in all the discussion about why we need to continue to wear masks is this obvious aspect. Suppose CDC said you don't need to wear a mask after you're vaccinated. So all the crazies will show up at Walmart, claiming to be vaccinated when they are not. Who is going to check and verify it before allowing them to enter? And the same crazies that are against wearing a mask surely are going to object to having to provide a vaccine passport, they are already objecting.

If you are vaccinated you are safe, why do you care if a bunch of antivaxxers die? It is like those old biddies (M&F) who lose their mind when they see people riding a motorcycle or even a bicycle without a helmet. It is not your head hitting the pavement. Get over it. They made a personal choice and it doesn't affect you.

It looks like we'll soon reach the point in the U.S. where everyone who wants to be vaccinated will be. We'll be able to take care of the stragglers fairly promptly. Why should you alter your behavior if I chose to take may chances? Maybe there are people who would like to see you up close and personal.

The more people infected with the virus, the more opportunities for mutations. Although viruses tend to mutate toward more contagious and less virulent characteristics, the journey might leave a swath of vaccinated people dead or suffering long covid.

Sure it does. It affects insurance rates. It affects the people who see the idiot's brains splattered on the pavement. Etc. Each effect is small, but they add up.

Cindy Hamilton

Typical democrat response of blame the victim.  Most motorcycle accidents are caused by inattentive idiots in cars. C'mon man!

Cindy_4 called motorcycle riders idiots for not wearing helmets thus causing insurance rates to rise.

The true idiots are the inattentive drivers who cause the accidents thus causing insurance rates to rise.

Those "idiots" are generally more charitably referred to as "organ donors".

Cindy Hamilton

Does not matter who caused it when you head hits the asphalt. Protect it. If you ride you know the risk.

It's a matter of state law, in the U.S. because of the 10th Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In the state where I live, helmets were required for quite a long time, until a ballot initiative put the matter into voters' hands. The majority of them decided the freedom to ride with the wind in one's hair (or lack thereof) was paramount.

Cindy Hamilton

I already brought that up and was universally criticized about it and I contend some of those mutations will be worse but they will in the vaccinated. Why weren't we worried about that with smallpox if the failure rate was similar? Perhaps because it is insignificant.

If you are really worried about escalating insurance costs you should be slapping the double whoppers out of people's hands and dumping out their 40 oz Coke. Even at the height of the pandemic, in spite of juking the Covid stats, heart disease still killed more people that Covid and obesity was a driving factor in Covid deaths.

Not wearing a helmet is still a personal choice. If some guy really wants the wind in his hair, it is his business and he also owns the tarmac in his skull when he goes down.

It is just as easy to say riding a motorbike itself on the same road with cars and trucks qualifies you as an idiot. In a crash you are usually going to be hurt no matter what.

See it turns out OK in the end anyway ;)

That lobby wasn't as strong, yes seat belts are required. I am surprised helmets are not too. It still wouldn't surprise me.

Not in any car I have bought recently unless I just didn't have the patience to wait. My wife's Lincoln starts with a couple dings and gets increasingly more insistent until it is a constant dinging. The radio/CD/MP3 is muted too. My Honda just has a red light on the dash but maybe the previous owner may have cut the wire to the dinger.

As an anecdote, I had a 75 Monza that had the seat belt dinger unplugged but, unfortunately, that plug also went to the oil pressure warning light. I assume that is why it had a bad rod bearing when I got it. It was till too good a deal to pass up.

I have always been a seat belt fan, even before it was a thing but I know a lot of people who resist. The easy work around if you are never going to wear one is to get a buckle from a junk yard and leave it plugged into the socket. The only guy I know who did that was in a farm truck.

True, it is a choice. When they are sewn back together and have no insurance, who pays the hospital bill?

Uh, bare heads make that less likely.

I wouldn't say most - and yes I have a motorcycle Licence - and no, I don't (currently) ride. I DO know many motorcyclists who are DEFINIITELY their own worst enemies and I would never ride with them.

Small peckers and small brains on powerful bikes.