Sawstop - probably a stupid question

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:54:46 GMT, "patrick conroy"

I suspect that for a given cost, it can be dropped mre quickly than it can be stopped.
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Interesting. Dunno. Springs that slam a hunk of Al into a spinning blade, spanning an inch or less of space. Or springs that need to retract the blade up to 3" into the saw.
Good question for their engineers.
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I am guessing here but if the blade drops it is likely the tension on the belts will lessen also. If the motor is effectively disengaged from the blade via the loose belts the blade momentum would not have the motor momentum added to the force that has to be stopped by the cartridge.

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I would think that the blade would stop before the saw drops. However, the act of dropping could be a problem in itself. Suppose you slip and your hand goes onto the blade. Thank god the saw blade witll stop spinning (perhaps), but then the blade starts to drop and pulls down. Trapping your little pinky between the tooth of the frozen blade. Suddenly you regret that you made that nifty zero clearance plate....
-j

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In that event even if the saw is off and the blade not turning at all you are going to get cut. The stationary blade is not going to pull you in as it drops, it is simply going to cut, not snag and pull.
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My saw blades seem to have a hook to them. I can certainly imagine that a finger caught under one of those hooks might see some shearing action as the blade drops below the zero clearance insert. Remember, the blade is immobilized so it isn't going to spin backwards to release the finger.
Of course this is just speculation. So neither one of us really knows what will happen.
-j
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Have you watched the videos? Sawstop stops and drops the blade so fast you could not hurt yourself with one if you wanted to! No way you could hook a pinkie in a tooth of the blade! Greg

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Sounds like you would make a good customer. Feel free to buy one. Let us know how it works out.
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wrote:

I would have seriously considered one had they been available when I bought my saw.
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Hank Gillette

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I saw a Sawstop demo in person 2 yrs ago. From what I remember the rep saying.... the blade is stopped within 2 or 3 teeth on a blade. Stopping the blade so fast takes a lot of energy and dropping the blade helps absorb some of the energy.
I got an e-mail from sawstop saying my cabinet saw is ready to be shipped to me. I put my name on the mailing list 2 yrs ago at IWF. So it looks as though there are actually starting production.
Mike
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Mike be sure and give us blow by blow details about the saw when you get it, Please.
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:44:22 GMT, "Leon"
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.....and we will all chip in amd pay for the new balde and repair of the sawstop.
BTW. If the SS does go off, do you have to return the saw to SS to get it repaired?
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cost of cartridge was about $80 and replacing it was a DIY project of very short duration. (they could do it in a few minutes - they did a demo every hour on the same saw). Sawblades were said to not be destroyed - maybe loose a couple of carbide teeth. If it were to happen with my WWII, then I would hang it on the wall as a reminder and gladly shell out for a new one. (now if it was a misfire, then it would be a different story)
Since my day job invloves keeping people asleep while the hand surgeons try to sew fingers back on, I can easily justify this device for my shop. About once a week I see someone cut off fingers. (My worst week ever I personally took care of 8 severe hand injuries in 5 days) If you think a couple hundred dollars is too much for this product, and that $80 for a cartridge is out of line, then you would really be shocked at the hospital bill if you ever have the misfortune to have a bad accident and you and your fingers go to the hospital in different vehicles. My insurance.... $150 for the ambulance ride, $150 ER copay, surgery would be free, $40 copay for each specialist, each visit (think of a couple of months of physical therapy @ $40 a pop), $25 for each prescription; then add in a pain factor, loss of wages, loss of use, and the 20% copay that I almost forgot about for several days in the hospital. Sawstop is pretty cheap insurance after all (IMHO - YMMV).
and if/when I do get a SS, I'll still be super careful around it - as I am now with all of my shop tools.
BTW... I keep a picture of a mangled hand right next to the on/off switch on the TS just as a reminder. (posted to APW or APBW a few years back)
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Certainly $200 for a new cartridge and blade is EXTREMELY cheap insurance to guard against a "serious" injury. You or your employeer pay way more than that monthly for health insurance.

Exactly. And the scary part is that the people that believe that proper use of your brain is going to prevent these kind of accidents are the ones that probably need the Saw Stop the most. There are countless ways to be seriousely injured with a TS while "not" cutting wood and IMHO that is when your mental guard will be less effective.
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CRNA or MD?
My wife is a CRNA, although no longer practicing.
- - LRod
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Neither - I'm an AA-C (Anesthesiologist Assistant) Closer to a CRNA than an MD. We have about a dozen CRNAs in our group though, along with about 45 AAs.
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Great quantification to justify the real-world cost of this product. If and when it ever becomes available for my Jet cabinet saw - it will be installed.
Bob S.

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BobS wrote:

I doubt that there's ever going to be a retrofit kit available. If that was doable at reasonable cost and effort I'm sure the Sawstop people would have gone that route rather than trying to break into an established market with a new line of saws.

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Would you post details about it ? I'm interested in it.
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My contractor saw has been on order for a year now. The latest extimate is March 2005.
David Wilhite

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