The review of the Sawstop system in the latest issue of FWW contains
the following: "The braking mechanism springs an aluminum cartridge
into the path of the blade as the whole blade assembly drops below the
surface of the tabletop, out of harm's way".
If the blade drops below the tabletop, what's the point of stopping it
? If it doesn't drop quickly enough to be safe, why drop it at all ?
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A good and fair question - but to me the dangers of this device far exceed
this question. The problem with this device is people becoming dependent on
it and being careless, and then at a most inopportune moment, the device
fails. After all, it is only an electromechanical device, and such devices
have certainly been known to fail. It remains that the best safety device
ever invented is a clear mind and proper technique. And I realize that the
SawStop has been thoroughly tested on hot dogs without failure, but
1: That certainly doesn't mean that it won't fail. And I believe that
they don't guarantee that it won't fail.
2. When I want to cut up a hot dog I use a knife instead of my table
You mean, after 3 or 4 CLOSE calls, and spending several hundreds of
dollars replacing blades and catridges, they will become careless and
lose a hand?
You know, I have a neighbor who accidentally set his house on fire
three times. The last time (he was thawing a frozen pipe with a
propane torch) the house caught fire so bad he lost the whole house
(No, I don't know if the insurance company paid him. And his wife and
two little girls were with him when he did it).
I guess my point is this:
1) Some people are freakin' careless.
2) Some people are freakin' dumb as a post.
These people will ALWAYS be an issue. SawStop has nothing to do with it.
And I can't see how SawStop would make things worse for these people.
Wait - I thought of something.....
If they have SawStop AND they disable it, yes - it could make things
worse. But if it's always enabled, and works, it HAS to help.
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careless, and then at a most inopportune moment, the device fails.
Sorta like brakes on a vehicle then....?
certainly been known to fail. It remains that the best safety device
the SawStop has been thoroughly tested on hot dogs without failure, but
that they don't guarantee that it won't fail.
I guess you then don't use the brakes on your vehicle.....?
I believe a lot of the controversy on this subject was not so much the
technicalities but that the company tried to have legislation introduced
that would mandate this safety device. It would probably greatly minimize
the potential damage done to skin and bone versus the number of failures it
may experience but if you're the one it fails on - then you certainly
Like brakes on a vehicle - they've been known to fail also.
More like an airbag. If it were to go off at the wrong time, that'd be
bad. If it were to not go off when it should, that'd be bad too.
And if you rely on it as a supplimental safety feature and disregard the
primary safety features (seatbelts, paying attention, not being drunk/stoned/
stupid while driving) then you're asking for a world of hurt.
Yes, that and the fact that they keep not being able to produce it. Having
been in both design and manufacturing, I recognize a "we can't make this
reliable enough to ship" situation when I see one, and I see one.
But Bob, brakes on a vehicle exist. Much like a retail Sawstop does not.
The Sawstop may be like brakes and airbags in some respects, but I have
not seen airbags that cost more than an entry level car. The SawStop
would eliminate entry level tablesaws completely as you can't add it to
a $200 benchtop. Even if you could somehow manage to fit this thing
into an entry level saw, the base price would have to double or triple
and the cost of it going off would be more than the pre-SawStop cost of
the saw. Incremental safety equipment additions to cars and such have
certainly added to the cost of such items substantially, but they have
not doubled or tripled the entry level price. The cost of an airbag
replacement hasn't yet reached the cost of the rest of the car.
You might be interested in knowing that an accident that causes 4 or 5
thousand dollars worth of body damage on an entry level car that is a year
or two old may very well total the vehicle when you add in the replacement
cost of the air bags and interior trim parts that are damaged when the air
bags go off.
There's no reason it has to add that kind of cost to a table saw. There's
nothing in it that costs that much. Granted, it's a capitalist world and
the owner of the idea is entitled to charge what the market will bear, but
there's no reason for it to double or triple the cost of a low end saw.
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