Bring up a copy of "Windfall" and watch it. A small town in upstate NY
wrestling with the fallout from wind turbines and the resultant
political, health, government and corporate greed issues.
Ironic thing is that to a man, the opponents are all admitted
liberals/progressives who vocally support "alternative energy" ... that
is, until they experienced first hand exactly what that concept really
brings in human costs.
Much more than a NIMBY presentation, it should be required viewing
BEFORE anyone runs their mouth on these issue without being fully
informed of the human, economic and social costs these programs entail
... including the enormous increase in greenhouse gas emission from the
collateral technologies required to run them.
Inform yourself, first ...
I don't have an argument against greenhouse gases affecting global
climate. But I believe the wildfires are as much to do with poor
forest management (suppressing files for 100 years has built up a huge
backlog of combustible material) than the warmer climate.
There is a credible theory (not proof) that the recent milder winters,
allows the bark beetle larvae to survive in greater numbers over the
winter. Then the trees, stressed by drought, are more susceptible to
damage from the beetles than they normally would be.
Presumably the milder winters are a result of global warming due to
greenhouse gases. However in this forum the "due to" part isn't likely
to be accepted. So be it.
Agreed! Moreover, it is amazing how much more accurate short term weather
forecasts are then even a few years ago (now good, most of the time for 4-5
days). Even long-term forecasts (winterstorms) were pretty good last
winter. Can't be due to only faster bigger computers, but must also be
because of better models.
It's all about what you're used to.
Snow in Houston is a source of much amusement: Schools and businesses shut
down, the freeways are closed, citizens stock up on strawberry PopTarts and
beer, church pews get crowded, families gather in the den and proclaim how
much they love each other...
Conversely, when a hurricane enters the Gulf, visitors from northern climes
look down and say "Feet! Make tracks!" while natives universally exclaim:
Until you've seen a metal trash can (lawn chair, dog, etc.) sailing down the
street at 70 miles per hour...
Hell, that's no different than Alabama and snow is a lot more common (once or
twice a year for the last three). In AL, they shut down on the forecast of
snow. It's no wonder, seeing how people drive when it gets just a little
You betcha! I'm a few hundred miles inland, though if I were on the coast I'd
I've seen that in Yankeeland. The recent storms in the Midwest to DC had that
sort of action.
Yeah those that have been through a rough hurricane don't say Party
Time, the strong storm is serious business. It is mostly those that
have been watching so-n-so Cantori on TWC and that are new to the coast
that say Party Time. A lawn chair going down the street at 70 mph is
really something you do not see unless it is a normal storm that just
popped up. It is not unusual to see a U-Haul trailer going through the
air, not on the ground, during a strong hurricane. The trailer I saw in
Corpus Christi in the early 70's ended up half in and half out of a
Think of a hundred tornadoes in the immediate vicinity and lasting 10~24
Utah's got a dozen fire going, most of them fueled by grasses and other
small plants that grew in abundance during last year when precipitation
was high and temperatures mild, that turned into tinderboxes this year
when precipitation was low and temperatures high. Some of them were
ignited by lightning, others by human stupidity. I'm just saying that's
not the result of forest mismanagement. All of which has nothing to do
with nonexistent man-made climate change.
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