Blowing Neighbours smell away

[Tim Streater]

I can't see the point of a pub that doesn't do food.

[Tim Lamb]

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Probably felt he couldn't add much to the experts comments.

My opinion of smokers was formed when it was legal to smoke in cinemas. The smokers hand was invariably positioned so that the smoke did not drift towards his own face.

I don't think 23 years exposure to office smokers has shortened my life but I do still wish they wouldn't do it. I have now survived a further

28 years with hazards limited to harvesting dust, chemical sprays and welding fumes:-)

regards

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[ARWadsworth]

Well you could get pissed in it.

[Hugh - Was Invisible]

I go to my local for a better pint of ale than I can get anywhere else and to catch up on what is going on in the village. The smokers are happy to go outside and I only have to walk 150 yards home soberly without endangering anyone else.

[Graham.]

world will do.

an office environment.

And Roy Castle, it must be true it's in Wikipedia.

recently when I firs,t had a quadruple heart by pass,

NEVER HAD SMOKED

You mean your prognosis was better. One would hope the treatment you received was appropriate to your needs at the time regardless. .

[Steve Walker]

Oh I don't know. My father gave up smoking for a number of years, but then the company he was working for wanted to make a number of redundancies and he was the one that had to tell the employees. He was stressed and uncomfortable with this and a smoker offered him a cigarette, which he unfortunately took. A few years later on Father's Day, I gave him a pack of nicotine patches, he never bought a second pack, but he never smoked again!

SteveW

[Steve Walker]

Except that in moderation, no-one around is affected, unlike smoking.

It's simple fact, most people can drink all their lives without ever devloping an addiction (defined as producing withdrawal symptoms when they don't drink), most smokers who try to give up struggle and do suffer physical withdrawal symptoms.

There are frequent scientific reports of health benefits of small quantities of alcohol, whereas the reports on cigarette smoke show harm beginning at even the lowest levels.

Oh, I think that the smoking laws are unfair to an extent - smoking in company vehicles, etc. but I can't see any way to allow smoking in pubs, restaurants, etc. without affecting either other customers or staff.

SteveW

[The Medway Handyman]

I'm going to die of something - and so are you.

You really should try & understand Latin phrases before you use them in an effort to appear clever.

[The Medway Handyman]

15 minutes? How big is this cigarette?

Another gross exaggeration, typical of the anti smoking fascists.

[The Medway Handyman]

And thats not what I was talking about idiot.

Smoking has been demonised by the health police - fact.

Alcohol is next on their lists - fact.

[The Medway Handyman]

To which he cross posted.

Even more enlightening to learn how extreme rabid anti smoking fascists can be in the persecution of a minority.

Its a reminder that we should be teaching people to think for themselves.

[The Medway Handyman]

Don't you believe it, thats what was said about smoking. The anti alcohol campaign is following the anti smoking campaign almost exactly.

"A bid to impose a total ban on alcohol advertising on television has been launched in Parliament".

[The Medway Handyman]

Again, just how large is this cigarette that takes 20 mins to smoke?

Exaggeration is a standard tactic used by anti smoking fascists.

[The Medway Handyman]

However, if I go on a job with my smoking mate, in the van I own, technically its illegal. My van, we are both smokers.

[The Medway Handyman]

Passive smoking has never killed anyone.

[Gib Bogle]

Most smokers do.

[Jon]

Do I really need to explain that to you?

Jon

[Dave Plowman (News)]

most of the complaints about smoking here refer to the past, and to people smoking outdoors at the entrance to buildings. The last part would be easily addressed by having smoking rooms. With proper filtration.

Have you seen the figures for those treated for alcohol addiction? And the numbers who drink every day is vast. Smokers can and do go for long periods in a day without smoking too - just like many social drinkers.

Yes - by those who use it or sell it. Plenty of doctors specialising in such things is the only safe consumption is zero.

It can be a useful drug for those who might otherwise need a different medication. Of course it has well known downsides. But so do other forms of medication. Especially with long term use.

Given it's possible to provide a safe working environment for those handling much more dangerous gases etc than smoke, it doesn't take too much thought to realise you could make filtered smoking areas.

[Gib Bogle]

Addict!

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I doubt it. Too many in high places are addicted to it. And if not actually addicted, just heavy users.