Blowing Neighbours smell away

[The Medway Handyman]

You have no idea how profitable nicotine patches etc are.

[dennis]

There are a few differences, including..

drinking wine doesn't normally affect anyone nearby. drink is nowhere near as addictive as smoking you can drink without being addicted something that doesn't appear to be true for smoking. low levels of drinking appears to be healthy, unlike any level of smoking.

[The Medway Handyman]

Choice means having non smoking & smoking areas & venues. Since the rabid anti smoking fascists have forced smokers outside, the have limited their choice - and now they whinge about smokers outside.

I wasn't in a hotel room yesterday? Where did you get that idea from? Typical anti smoker - making things up.

Both. But the anti smoking fascists removed choice from the equation.

[The Medway Handyman]

Its dangerous to active smokers to be in smoke filled rooms?

[The Medway Handyman]

Where did you take your degree in higher stupidity?

[dennis]

IME most reasonable people don't think the smoking laws go far enough. I expect you know too many smokers and not enough non smokers.

[mike]

I can well imagine how profitable nicotine patches are but surely a constant supply of cancer-riddled addicts is more profitable than the diminishing supply of patch-buying quitters that a ban would produce.

[mike]

Are there drug companies out there that are actively looking to reduce sales and profits?

[dennis]

They were interviewing publicans on BBC WM a couple of months ago about the closing of pubs. Half of them said the smoking ban had had a positive effect and they now served more food and had families in. the other half said they were going broke. You can draw whatever conclusion you like. I note that there are now far more places to go than pubs, like smoke free restaurants, cinemas, etc. Pubs that don't offer more than drinking look like dying pubs to me. If you just want to drink then its a lot cheaper at home.

[Elmo]

I don't, but my mother-in-law does whenever she is having an orgasm, which is quite often since my father-in-law discovered Viagra. My wife is no longer so keen to have them visit. Thank God for Viagra.

[John Williamson]

"Your" choice as in the generic smoker, not your choice as in your

*personal* choice. And it happens to about one in fifty hotel rooms I stay in. Although, for all I know you were in at least one of them.

Just as smokers always did and still do. One bloke I know is no longer welcome in my home because he does not understand that I do not want him smoking in my living room, especially as he just lights up and puffs away without asking my permission. The room reeks of smoke for days afterwards.

[Elmo]

Using a nicotine patch isn't giving up smoking - it is just changing brands.

[dennis]

More like.. they can't prove it was my smoke that killed so I am alright and sod everyone else.

[Fuschia]

He's not the 'usual' troll on the gardening group which I follow, so I assume you are referring to the diy group. But it's been quite enlightening to learn just how extreme some addicts can be in defence of their habit. It's a reminder why we need to have laws to protect the innocent majority from the diminishing few who set their own needs above their neighbours' comfort and safety.

['Mike']

Mike

[Dave Plowman (News)]

But then you're neither sensible or reasonable.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I was referring generally. I don't know the gentleman. But since he hasn't participated in the thread it's safe to say he's a troll

It might be more to the point if you thought up some ways of answering the problem. It's almost certain you have habits others would happily ban. The nature of the human.

[Interloper]

"Dave Plowman (News)" observed:

You're right, we haven't heard much from the OP since he lit the blue touch-paper and retired to a safe distance!

He initiated a lively, entertaining thread though ;-)

[Dave Plowman (News)]

;-) It comes up about every year. With the same predictable arguments.

[dennis]

Well I don't smoke so that makes me far more sensible than all smokers. I don't stop smokers smoking unless its harming others so I am also more reasonable than most smokers.