You probably never saw marijuana, cocaine or heroin either. Do you think they are not there?
You probably never saw marijuana, cocaine or heroin either. Do you think they are not there?
Sounds just like you with that glass of wine you so enjoy.
Do you think everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic?
Always assuming one wanted to.
But you have no evidence whatsoever. Rather like the passive smoking lobby.
No one is disputing that. Which bit of 'passive' confused you?
Thought so. Far too thick to realise you contradicted yourself.
Please examine feet for bullet holes.
Which pub is that then Dennis?
Nope. Smoking is banned.
False analogy.
No there isn't.
Look up the word 'choice' & get back to me.
Nothing to do with the claims of the non smokers - no.
You fail to understand that some people have no wish to give it up.
Alcohol is next on the new puritan list. Hope you don't like a drink.
The non smokers attitude. I don't like it so I want it banned everywhere, if that restricts personal choice - tough.
I think you mistake some non-smokers with all non-smokers.
Some of the legislation is stupid: if I give someone a lift in my car on behalf of a charity, I need to display a "No Smoking" sign in the car.
It was in reply to the addicts part. And yes, many who claim to simply just enjoy a glass of wine - and it's always wine - are addicted.
You're acting like a form of taxi, and like all such vehicles, smoking is not allowed by either driver or passengers. The same applies to works vans
- but is largely ignored.
Keep telling yourself that. One day you might just believe it - if the cancer doesn't get you first.
A non-sequitur much beloved of smokers. "Help, I've lost the argument again! - ah yes, the alcohol dodge."
Plenty of similarities. Both are mind changing recreational drugs. However, the detrimental effects of alcohol on behaviour (with many) make it very different. And the havoc is causes to society in a totally different league. But carry on thinking it's harmless. Just because you're a user.
Far too useful in many occasions, and there's the big failed experiment from the US too. It'll never happen.
"Hugh - Was Invisible" observed:
Yes indeed!
Most people are good at something :-)
My choice would be to breathe air free of tobacco smoke, the smokers' choice is to pollute the air around them with tobacco smoke. That makes my only possible course of action to move away from their pollution, which means that I have no other option. Their choice has limited my choices.
My choice would be to sleep in a hotel room that does not stink of old cigarette smoke. Your choice as a smoker to break the law in that hotel room yesterday makes it impossible for me to have my choice.
I drive a coach for a living, and I have to walk through the cloud of smoke generated by smokers who light up as they cross the threhold of the exit door, and then just stand there, and get offended when I close the door to keep their smoke out. Their choice of smoking place removes my chance of staying smoke free.
Whose choice is more important? The drug addict's or the clean living person's?
The smokers' attitude. I like it so I want to be able to do it everywhere, if that restricts personal choice - tough.
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